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UK Non-resident Landlord self-assessment

Posted: Sun Jul 14, 2024 12:44 pm
by workbalance
Hi UK Non-resident Landlord,

How are you doing your self~assessment? Do you use third-party software or submit a hard copy? I only have one property and looks pretty simple so I was thinking to submit it a hard copy. Alternatively, if you a third-party software user, I would like to know what software to use.

Thank in advance

Re: UK Non-resident Landlord self-assessment

Posted: Sun Jul 14, 2024 10:08 pm
by Deep Blue
My wife uses the paper forms. The actual work to fill in doesn’t take long, probably no more than an hour if you keep the receipts and invoices in good order.

Re: UK Non-resident Landlord self-assessment

Posted: Mon Jul 15, 2024 2:59 am
by Wales4rugbyWC23
Deep Blue wrote: Sun Jul 14, 2024 10:08 pm My wife uses the paper forms. The actual work to fill in doesn’t take long, probably no more than an hour if you keep the receipts and invoices in good order.

My wife also does the paper forms, but I think once it goes over the tax allowance, I might sign her up with a Gateway account. The yearly rent is likely to go over the allowance this tax year.

Re: UK Non-resident Landlord self-assessment

Posted: Mon Jul 15, 2024 3:26 am
by Deep Blue
Unfortunately my wife doesn’t have a National Insurance number so no option for us to do it online (and no tax free allowance either!)

Re: UK Non-resident Landlord self-assessment

Posted: Mon Jul 15, 2024 5:34 am
by workbalance
So the conclusion is that my wife should be doing it. Seriously, if your Japanese spouse has lived in the UK and has a National insurance number, they also have a personal allowance? Also, going off topic here, but would they also be able to make voluntary contributions on her state pension?

Re: UK Non-resident Landlord self-assessment

Posted: Mon Jul 15, 2024 5:36 am
by Deep Blue
My wife hasn’t lived in the UK.

Re: UK Non-resident Landlord self-assessment

Posted: Mon Jul 15, 2024 6:02 am
by workbalance
workbalance wrote: Mon Jul 15, 2024 5:34 am So the conclusion is that my wife should be doing it. Seriously, if your Japanese spouse has lived in the UK and has a National insurance number, they also have a personal allowance? Also, going off topic here, but would they also be able to make voluntary contributions on her state pension?
I just googled my own question and it looks like your can only do if for years you a resident in the UK.

Re: UK Non-resident Landlord self-assessment

Posted: Mon Jul 15, 2024 6:47 am
by northSaver
workbalance wrote: Mon Jul 15, 2024 6:02 am I just googled my own question and it looks like your can only do if for years you a resident in the UK.
Only do what? Pay into the UK state pension? You can pay voluntarily for as long as you want, also back-pay to some extent, as long as you paid national insurance for a minimum number of years while you lived there. This is irrespective of nationality, so some Japanese spouses can and do pay into the UK state pension from Japan.

Re: UK Non-resident Landlord self-assessment

Posted: Mon Jul 15, 2024 11:00 am
by workbalance
How many years do you need to have lived in the UK to qualify for voluntary contributions? Should I just apply and see what happens?

Re: UK Non-resident Landlord self-assessment

Posted: Mon Jul 15, 2024 11:50 am
by northSaver
workbalance wrote: Mon Jul 15, 2024 11:00 am How many years do you need to have lived in the UK to qualify for voluntary contributions?
Basically three. The eligibility criteria are in the wiki:
https://retirewiki.jp/wiki/United_Kingd ... te_Pension
workbalance wrote: Mon Jul 15, 2024 11:00 am Should I just apply and see what happens?
If you meet the requirements then yes. You'd be daft not to :)