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Defense MF/ETF
Posted: Mon Nov 09, 2020 4:56 am
by Ori
There was a link to an article about impending cold war between USA an China in one of the recent Monday Reads from Ben. And the author was suggesting to buy stocks of defense companies (coincidentally, he is a CEO of investment company with defense portfolio
).
I was wondering what does everyone thinks about such an investment and if there are any good MF/ETF?
The article itself:
https://contrarianedge.com/us-and-china ... -cold-war/
Some funds I found:
https://www.etf.com/channels/aerospace-defense-etfs
https://etfdb.com/etfs/industry/aerospace--defense/
Re: Defense MF/ETF
Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2020 11:36 pm
by fools_gold
It might be worth asking this on a larger, more general investing forum.
Defense ETFs are looking a bit beaten up at the moment. That's probably due to the effects of COVID-19 on the aviation industry. It's something to think about alongside any thoughts of a new cold war. Investing in these ETFs is basically a side bet which could go either way.
Personally, I think relations between China and the US will probably be a little bit less tense under Biden.
Re: Defense MF/ETF
Posted: Sat Jan 02, 2021 6:23 am
by Ori
It appears that this question was irrelevant, because none of the ETFs in question can be purchased via Japanese brokers (at least not via Rakuten or SBI)
. And I couldn't find any Japanese ETF or MF investing in defense or aerospace.
There was one Fidelity fund, though, which can be purchased via Nomura, but I don't have account there, so I didn't bother to research it.
Re: Defense MF/ETF
Posted: Sat Jan 02, 2021 7:23 am
by Kanto
Ori wrote: ↑Sat Jan 02, 2021 6:23 am
It appears that this question was irrelevant, because none of the ETFs in question can be purchased via Japanese brokers (at least not via Rakuten or SBI)
. And I couldn't find any Japanese ETF or MF investing in defense or aerospace.
There was one Fidelity fund, though, which can be purchased via Nomura, but I don't have account there, so I didn't bother to research it.
This is close....
https://emaxis.jp/fund/253299.html#tab_report
More space, less defense.
1 HEXCEL CORP アメリカ 資本財 5.2%
2 VIRGIN GALACTIC HOLDINGS INC アメリカ 資本財 5.1%
3 BOEING CO/THE アメリカ 資本財 4.9%
4 RAYTHEON TECHNOLOGIES CORP アメリカ 資本財 4.5%
5 MOOG INC-CLASS A アメリカ 資本財 4.5%
6 TELEDYNE TECHNOLOGIES INC アメリカ 資本財 4.1%
7 HONEYWELL INTERNATIONAL INC アメリカ 資本財 4.1%
8 HEICO CORP アメリカ 資本財 4.0%
9 AEROJET ROCKETDYNE HOLDINGS アメリカ 資本財 4.0%
10 L3HARRIS TECHNOLOGIES INC
Re: Defense MF/ETF
Posted: Sat Jan 02, 2021 1:20 pm
by Ori
Kanto wrote: ↑Sat Jan 02, 2021 7:23 am
This is close....
https://emaxis.jp/fund/253299.html#tab_report
More space, less defense.
1 HEXCEL CORP アメリカ 資本財 5.2%
2 VIRGIN GALACTIC HOLDINGS INC アメリカ 資本財 5.1%
3 BOEING CO/THE アメリカ 資本財 4.9%
4 RAYTHEON TECHNOLOGIES CORP アメリカ 資本財 4.5%
5 MOOG INC-CLASS A アメリカ 資本財 4.5%
6 TELEDYNE TECHNOLOGIES INC アメリカ 資本財 4.1%
7 HONEYWELL INTERNATIONAL INC アメリカ 資本財 4.1%
8 HEICO CORP アメリカ 資本財 4.0%
9 AEROJET ROCKETDYNE HOLDINGS アメリカ 資本財 4.0%
10 L3HARRIS TECHNOLOGIES INC
Thanks for the link! Indeed, it would seem like a good alternative, if not for the TER. It is a whopping 1.074%, which is more than I would like to pay...
Re: Defense MF/ETF
Posted: Sat Jan 02, 2021 2:20 pm
by Kanto
管理費用(含む信託報酬)(税込) 0.792%
Re: Defense MF/ETF
Posted: Sun Jan 03, 2021 5:16 am
by Ori
Kanto wrote: ↑Sat Jan 02, 2021 2:20 pm
管理費用(含む信託報酬)(税込) 0.792%
That's their declared ER. But I always look at the fund's real ER in 交付運用報告書 (under 1万口当たりの費用明細). And their TER last year was 1.074%.
Re: Defense MF/ETF
Posted: Sun Jan 03, 2021 8:30 am
by Kanto
Ori wrote: ↑Sun Jan 03, 2021 5:16 am
Kanto wrote: ↑Sat Jan 02, 2021 2:20 pm
管理費用(含む信託報酬)(税込) 0.792%
That's their declared ER. But I always look at the fund's real ER in 交付運用報告書 (under 1万口当たりの費用明細). And their TER last year was 1.074%.
Ah, that is a good catch.
These NEO funds are the closest thing we have to ARK funds in Japan.
I am also reluctant to invest at those high rates.
Re: Defense MF/ETF
Posted: Sun Jan 03, 2021 2:08 pm
by captainspoke
Kanto wrote: ↑Sun Jan 03, 2021 8:30 am...
These NEO funds are the closest thing we have to ARK funds in Japan.
...
Really? I'd like to explore that. Which NEO fund(s) and which ARK funds are you saying are close?
Re: Defense MF/ETF
Posted: Sun Jan 03, 2021 2:41 pm
by Kanto
captainspoke wrote: ↑Sun Jan 03, 2021 2:08 pm
Kanto wrote: ↑Sun Jan 03, 2021 8:30 am...
These NEO funds are the closest thing we have to ARK funds in Japan.
...
Really? I'd like to explore that. Which NEO fund(s) and which ARK funds are you saying are close?
Fintech and Self-driving and Generic Engineering.
Have a look.
https://emaxis.jp/index.html
Expense ratios are high though, as you would expect for a managed fund.