Cash out from fund: system to pay taxes?

[outhouse_critic]

Hi,
I cashed out some money from a fund recently and the money was deposited in my bank account. I'm assuming I need to report this to the government for tax purposes; can anyone help in letting me know how to do this? ie, a form to fill out and when I do it?
Thanks in advance. Cheers!

[adamu]

What type of account was it in?

[outhouse_critic]

Banner Ebisu fund
https://www.bannerassetmanagement.com/o ... come-fund/
A tax-reporting account I would guess.
Thanks, Adamu

[TokyoWart]

Banner Ebisu fund
https://www.bannerassetmanagement.com/o ... come-fund/
A tax-reporting account I would guess.
Thanks, Adamu

Looks like that is an overseas fund so it would not be in a "tokutei" account. If that is true you will need to report you capital gain as calculated in yen when you file your tax return for 2023.

[outhouse_critic]

Thanks for that TokyoWart; I only took out a portion from the fund (2 million yen). I'm not sure at all how I can calculate the actual capital gain amount. Any advice?

[beanhead]

Thanks for that TokyoWart; I only took out a portion from the fund (2 million yen). I'm not sure at all how I can calculate the actual capital gain amount. Any advice?

You may only be able to make an accurate estimation. This will be good enough.

Look at the overall return on the money you have invested, then calculate what that is for this 2 million portion.
Make a simple doc for submission that says, for example,
1,500,000 invested,
2,000,000 paid out,
= profit of 500,000. This is the part that you need to pay the tax on.
If you have some backup screenshots or something from Banner, that would be helpful in case you get asked to 'show your working'.

[goodandbadjapan]

I had a similar issue some years ago and we had a wee thread about it!viewtopic.php?t=68
It was a right pain!

[TokyoBoglehead]

Banner Ebisu fund
https://www.bannerassetmanagement.com/o ... come-fund/
A tax-reporting account I would guess.
Thanks, Adamu

Please please consider doing an interview with Ben (Retire Japan) anonymously or otherwise about this. I feel a lot of people fall victim to the banners and Argentum Wealth's of the world.

[outhouse_critic]

Thanks for that TokyoWart; I only took out a portion from the fund (2 million yen). I'm not sure at all how I can calculate the actual capital gain amount. Any advice?

You may only be able to make an accurate estimation. This will be good enough.

Look at the overall return on the money you have invested, then calculate what that is for this 2 million portion.
Make a simple doc for submission that says, for example,
1,500,000 invested,
2,000,000 paid out,
= profit of 500,000. This is the part that you need to pay the tax on.
If you have some backup screenshots or something from Banner, that would be helpful in case you get asked to 'show your working'.

Ok, thanks for this. I think I'll be able to get more specific details on the cash out, and possibly how much I earned, but wanted to check in here first to see what the process was. TY.

[TokyoWart]

Thanks for that TokyoWart; I only took out a portion from the fund (2 million yen). I'm not sure at all how I can calculate the actual capital gain amount. Any advice?

Every fund I've been involved with has given me a statement of capital gains/losses when I cashed out any portion of my investment but my experience with funds and partnerships has been in the US because of the complications for tax reporting for off shore investment vehicles for US citizens.