Furusato Nozei Experience

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TJKansai wrote: Thu Oct 28, 2021 5:54 am Is the furusato nozei allowance base solely on taxed earned income, or are taxes paid on capital gains/dividends also included?
Its specifically residential tax. Definitely won't include cap gains or miscellaneous income tax.
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zeroshiki wrote: Thu Oct 28, 2021 7:20 am Definitely won't include cap gains or miscellaneous income tax.
This is not correct. Residence tax calculations include miscellaneous income and dividends (when not withheld at source - although I'm not sure of the details).

You can calculate your residence tax here: https://juuminzei.com/keisan/
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adamu wrote: Thu Oct 28, 2021 10:27 am
zeroshiki wrote: Thu Oct 28, 2021 7:20 am Definitely won't include cap gains or miscellaneous income tax.
This is not correct. Residence tax calculations include miscellaneous income and dividends (when not withheld at source - although I'm not sure of the details).

You can calculate your residence tax here: https://juuminzei.com/keisan/
Thanks for that link. I have been going by the income summary paper I get from my workplace, but I may be due for a bit more allowance.
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taneandy wrote: Thu Oct 28, 2021 4:36 am
bryanc wrote: Thu Oct 28, 2021 3:20 am as you say is accurate-thanks
dont have the 源泉徴収票 so can i just put in the 社会保険total from one month and multiply by 12??
as you say-adding in the medical bills to be discounted (around 400000yen) seemed to take the total down quite substantially...do i put in the amount i am requesting for tax return or the actual tax return amount?
The simulator on furusato choice has an explanation for each item you can input.

The item for 社会保険 is actually 社会保険等 which also seem to include 厚生年金、雇用保険 and so on, which means you probably need to multiply the total you are paying for those each month by 12 to get an estimate for the yearly amount.
ok-question for you-wifes salary went down as management position changed from schoolyr change april-though it was a promotion (figure that one out!)therefore trying to calculate how much furusato nozei can use -as will be different from last yr
but having problems calculating shakai hoken etc-any easy way to do this?
the calculator on furusato choice seems affected drastically by the shakaihoken paid amount-
dreadful pain that have to do it before the actual gensan statement comes in january-is that by design?!
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bryanc wrote: Sat Oct 30, 2021 3:30 am ok-question for you-wifes salary went down as management position changed from schoolyr change april-though it was a promotion (figure that one out!)therefore trying to calculate how much furusato nozei can use -as will be different from last yr
but having problems calculating shakai hoken etc-any easy way to do this?
the calculator on furusato choice seems affected drastically by the shakaihoken paid amount-
dreadful pain that have to do it before the actual gensan statement comes in january-is that by design?!
As far as I know you just have to estimate. That's why it's good to leave a healthy buffer below the maximum amount. You could technically calculate the shakai hoken by looking up the bands, but I'm not sure of the details. In the worst case your efforts to get free stuff could backfire as just paying more tax. Better to be safe than sorry, and make the buffer smaller once income is relatively stable over multiple years.
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adamu wrote: Sat Oct 30, 2021 6:45 am
bryanc wrote: Sat Oct 30, 2021 3:30 am ok-question for you-wifes salary went down as management position changed from schoolyr change april-though it was a promotion (figure that one out!)therefore trying to calculate how much furusato nozei can use -as will be different from last yr
but having problems calculating shakai hoken etc-any easy way to do this?
the calculator on furusato choice seems affected drastically by the shakaihoken paid amount-
dreadful pain that have to do it before the actual gensan statement comes in january-is that by design?!
As far as I know you just have to estimate. That's why it's good to leave a healthy buffer below the maximum amount. You could technically calculate the shakai hoken by looking up the bands, but I'm not sure of the details. In the worst case your efforts to get free stuff could backfire as just paying more tax. Better to be safe than sorry, and make the buffer smaller once income is relatively stable over multiple years.
I give myself a 10% cushion.
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one question-is there any name issue when applying on this?
will there be a problem(ie not getting tax back) if middle name is not included in it?
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Name needs to be the same as your Juminhyou / Residence Card / My Number Card.
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thanks-will do that-that is different from the name on my 源泉 but presume not important.
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adamu wrote: Fri Nov 05, 2021 4:38 am Name needs to be the same as your Juminhyou / Residence Card / My Number Card.
that means it needs to be in english then,doesnt it?
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