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UK Budget - Pension increase

Posted: Thu Oct 31, 2024 12:20 am
by Roger Van Zant
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cx25w7qpr0yo

"The state pension will rise in line with average earnings, going up by 4.1% in April.
It means the full, new flat-rate state pension (for those who reached state pension age after April 2016) is expected to increase to £230.25 a week. That will mean a rise of £472 a year compared with now.
The full, old basic state pension (for those who reached state pension age before April 2016) is expected to go up to £176.45 a week - a rise of £363 a year compared with now."

No complaints from me.

At this rate, by the time I hit retirement age in 2046, the British pension will more than cover my lifestyle here in Japan.
(Provided the Japanese economy and yen doesn't somehow miraculously rebound in that time; highly unlikely given how Japan is now in a race to the bottom).

Re: UK Budget - Pension increase

Posted: Thu Oct 31, 2024 4:40 am
by Wales4rugbyWC23
Get the better British state pension and the better Japanese health system- Best of both worlds.....

Re: UK Budget - Pension increase

Posted: Thu Oct 31, 2024 4:51 am
by Moneymatters
There is a long joke about the lack of parachutes on a plane in distress, the culmination of which is one person without a parachute hurtling past a guy with a deployed chute. Nothing this, the guy with the parachute unclips it whilst proclaiming. “So it’s a race you want!”..
Whenever I seeing financial and population demographics from these two once great nations I’m often reminded of that joke..
(See recent birth rate data for the uk.. )

Re: UK Budget - Pension increase

Posted: Thu Oct 31, 2024 6:56 am
by Roger Van Zant
Wales4rugbyWC23 wrote: Thu Oct 31, 2024 4:40 am Get the better British state pension and the better Japanese health system- Best of both worlds.....
Indeed.
The NHS is a disaster.
You can throw all the money in the world at it and it is just a bottomless pit.
It isn't designed for the UK in 2024, and it needs some form of privitization, like the Japanese system

Re: UK Budget - Pension increase

Posted: Thu Oct 31, 2024 11:06 am
by Wales4rugbyWC23
Moneymatters wrote: Thu Oct 31, 2024 4:51 am There is a long joke about the lack of parachutes on a plane in distress, the culmination of which is one person without a parachute hurtling past a guy with a deployed chute. Nothing this, the guy with the parachute unclips it whilst proclaiming. “So it’s a race you want!”..
Whenever I seeing financial and population demographics from these two once great nations I’m often reminded of that joke..
(See recent birth rate data for the uk.. )
Seen the most recent net migration numbers..... For sure they will become pensioners in the all too distant future, but when they come, they are taxpayers....

Re: UK Budget - Pension increase

Posted: Thu Oct 31, 2024 11:08 am
by Wales4rugbyWC23
Roger Van Zant wrote: Thu Oct 31, 2024 6:56 am
Wales4rugbyWC23 wrote: Thu Oct 31, 2024 4:40 am Get the better British state pension and the better Japanese health system- Best of both worlds.....
Indeed.
The NHS is a disaster.
You can throw all the money in the world at it and it is just a bottomless pit.
It isn't designed for the UK in 2024, and it needs some form of privitization, like the Japanese system
I wouldn't argue for privatisation, but hybridisation of the private and the public roles as in what we have in Japan.

Re: UK Budget - Pension increase

Posted: Thu Oct 31, 2024 11:36 am
by Deep Blue
I think the most important thing the UK should immediately do with the NHS is implement annual health checkups for over 40's. It would both improve patient outcomes and save money. It's much cheaper and easier and more effective to treat diseases in the early stages than late and catching issues early would be massively benefical. UK could learn from Japan on this.

Re: UK Budget - Pension increase

Posted: Thu Oct 31, 2024 12:59 pm
by Moneymatters
Wales4rugbyWC23 wrote: Thu Oct 31, 2024 11:06 am
Moneymatters wrote: Thu Oct 31, 2024 4:51 am There is a long joke about the lack of parachutes on a plane in distress, the culmination of which is one person without a parachute hurtling past a guy with a deployed chute. Nothing this, the guy with the parachute unclips it whilst proclaiming. “So it’s a race you want!”..
Whenever I seeing financial and population demographics from these two once great nations I’m often reminded of that joke..
(See recent birth rate data for the uk.. )
Seen the most recent net migration numbers..... For sure they will become pensioners in the all too distant future, but when they come, they are taxpayers....
Yes I did. and now marvel as I use humor to avoid "lively debate"..
Isn't net growth still under 1% the past few decades and surely upon the third generation the kids will be #childfree social media managers and influencers and we need to wait for the british emigrants to return to prop up the numbers! (Unless that's me because I'm not going back!)... :D

Re: UK Budget - Pension increase

Posted: Thu Oct 31, 2024 1:37 pm
by Tkydon

Re: UK Budget - Pension increase

Posted: Thu Oct 31, 2024 11:41 pm
by Swimmer
Wales4rugbyWC23 wrote: Thu Oct 31, 2024 11:06 am
Seen the most recent net migration numbers..... For sure they will become pensioners in the all too distant future, but when they come, they are taxpayers....
Most recent immigrants tend to do low skilled jobs. According to official figures low-income earners cost the country a net 150,000 pounds through their lifetimes, including NHS costs etc...Also, less than half of asylum seekers enter the job market, the rest depend on the State.

So unless you are talking about high-income earners I'm not sure how valid your argument is.