Bitcoin: So at the end of the day, is it worth it?

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Is it possible to buy Bitcoin ETFs through Rakuten Securities ? I can't seem to find any...
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Long-Termer wrote: Wed Mar 13, 2024 10:17 pm Is it possible to buy Bitcoin ETFs through Rakuten Securities ? I can't seem to find any...
Tho I don't even dabble in it, access to those ETFs, along with COIN, MARA, RIOT, MSTR..., are one advantage for US investors.
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captainspoke wrote: Thu Mar 14, 2024 1:49 am
Long-Termer wrote: Wed Mar 13, 2024 10:17 pm Is it possible to buy Bitcoin ETFs through Rakuten Securities ? I can't seem to find any...
Tho I don't even dabble in it, access to those ETFs, along with COIN, MARA, RIOT, MSTR..., are one advantage for US investors.
It's only the ETFs that we can't get here right? I can see those stocks are available on Rakuten.
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Yeah, apparently without a law change here in Japan, no one will be able to buy an ETF holding underlying crypto data assets.

In Japan if you want it you have to own the real thing me understands.
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if you own bitcoin congrads your having a killer year
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This guy must be a genius. :lol:

Time to get real is now. Buy real assets: gold, silver, bitcoin before the biggest bubble in history goes bust.

Here you go:

https://news.bitcoin.com/robert-kiyosak ... e-bitcoin/
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beanhead wrote: Sun Mar 17, 2024 12:00 am This guy must be a genius. :lol:

Time to get real is now. Buy real assets: gold, silver, bitcoin before the biggest bubble in history goes bust.

Here you go:

https://news.bitcoin.com/robert-kiyosak ... e-bitcoin/
not really sure if you validating robert or saying he is rubbish
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Yutaka2024 wrote: Sun Mar 17, 2024 12:48 am
beanhead wrote: Sun Mar 17, 2024 12:00 am This guy must be a genius. :lol:

Time to get real is now. Buy real assets: gold, silver, bitcoin before the biggest bubble in history goes bust.

Here you go:

https://news.bitcoin.com/robert-kiyosak ... e-bitcoin/
not really sure if you validating robert or saying he is rubbish
Rubbish, definitely.

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A nice opportunity to re-read the words of Jim Collins :-)

https://jlcollinsnh.com/2012/04/15/stoc ... -save-you/

In the comments Jim Collins also linked to this post by Ben Carlson which specifically addresses Kiyosaki's comments.

https://awealthofcommonsense.com/2023/1 ... r-readers/
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https://www.barrons.com/articles/bitcoi ... y-178bec6b

Dated March 19.
Bitcoin Drops After Flash Crash. Why Prices Could Keep Dropping.
Jack Denton
Prices could fall further and be vulnerable to flash crash dynamics amid choppy liquidity in crypto markets—even as analysts and traders remain upbeat about the outlook.

The price of Bitcoin has fallen 6% over the past 24 hours to $62,600, with the largest digital asset trading as low as around $62,350 in a recent trough. Bitcoin has corrected lower since hitting a record high close to $74,000 last week, a record level that came just a week after the token blew through its November 2021 peak near $69,000.

“Bitcoin is down [at] its lowest level in two weeks,” said Alex Kuptsikevich, an analyst at broker FxPro. “A close below $65,500 would signal a move to a deeper level—the classic 61.8% retracement of the rally with a potential target near $60,000.”

Current price action looks like a short-term—but not insubstantial—correction across crypto, with profit-taking among long-term holders possibly being a driving factor behind the move lower. A factor injecting volatility into Bitcoin may be variable liquidity across trading venues, with at least one recent instance of a flash crash. A flash crash is a phenomenon where an asset at least briefly trades far below its typical market price, often as a result of automated trading strategies and mismatches in liquidity or a very unequal ratio of buyers to sellers.

Liquidity is critical factor in markets that allows assets to be bought and sold quickly without drastic moves in prices. Crypto liquidity had suffered drastically since the collapse of exchange FTX in late 2022, but the latest digital asset rally has brought Bitcoin’s market depth—a key measure of liquidity—back to its pre-FTX average, analysts at crypto data provider Kaiko wrote in a note on Monday.

Nevertheless, not all trading venues are created equal, and variable liquidity may be seen across markets at a time of significant change for Bitcoin because of the launch of new spot Bitcoin exchange-traded funds (ETFs). This may be contributing to choppy trading and could see more flash crashes if Bitcoin continues to sell off.

“Overnight on one exchange (BitMex), Bitcoin crashed down to $8,900 due to a large number of sell orders totaling $55.5 million,” analysts at Bespoke Investment Group wrote in a note Tuesday. “For an asset class that is worth over $1 trillion, a $55 million sell order causing a crash of that magnitude certainly doesn’t suggest a lot of liquidity.”

That said, many market participants remained optimistic about the longer-term outlook for Bitcoin.

For one, Bitcoin continues to be buoyed from inflows into spot Bitcoin ETFs, which were approved by U.S. regulators in January and have ushered in a fresh wave of investor interest in cryptos. Digital asset investment products had record weekly inflows of $2.9 billion last week, pushing year-to-date inflows to $13.2 billion, according to data from asset manager CoinShares.

Moreover, a reduction in Bitcoin issuance is looming, with the so-called halving set to take place next month, cutting the release of new tokens and tightening supply at a time when demand has been rising—likely adding support to prices.

Resilient risk sentiment in wider markets, where the S&P 500 and Nasdaq stock indexes remain near their own record levels, also bolsters cryptos, which are sensitive to wider risk appetite. That said, a pullback in tech stocks amid a risk-off mood in markets on Tuesday could be another short-term weight on token prices.

Beyond Bitcoin, Ether —the second-largest crypto by market value—lost 8% to fall to $3,250, having traded above $4,000 last week. Smaller tokens, or altcoins, also were weak with Cardano down 6% and Polygon plunging 9%. Memecoins were not spared with Dogecoin dropping 9% and Shiba Inu shedding 7%.
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