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US taxes - FBAR and Form 8938 requirements for IBKR?

Posted: Sat Mar 05, 2022 3:59 am
by akiaji
Hi everybody. "Favorite" time of the year doing taxes.

Late last year, I signed up with Interactive Brokers via the .co.jp site. I am US citizen living in Japan with PR.
I am not clear on whether the IBKR account is one that needs to be reported for FBAR and Form 8938. Are the funds ultimately held by a US financial institute, so no forms are needed, or is the account in Japan so reporting is necessary? I have logged a ticket with IBKR, but they are taking a while to respond, so I thought to check here as well.

Thank you.

Re: US taxes - FBAR and Form 8938 requirements for IBKR?

Posted: Sat Mar 05, 2022 4:04 am
by captainspoke
Not an expert on this, but while (on the one hand) I think IBKR is the US-based version of it, it's puzzling that you're mentioning/using the co.jp address--I think it should be .com instead.

Re: US taxes - FBAR and Form 8938 requirements for IBKR?

Posted: Sat Mar 05, 2022 10:50 am
by akiaji
Thank you for the reply! Before I signed up with them, I sent IBKR a query on whether I should sign up with their .com or .co.jp website. They replied that since I resided in Japan, I would need to sign up via the .co.jp website. So account is with their Japan entity, but the funds end up being held in the US. Hence my confusion. :D

Re: US taxes - FBAR and Form 8938 requirements for IBKR?

Posted: Sat Mar 05, 2022 11:14 am
by captainspoke
Yep--I agree that's confusing... :shock: :?: :!:

Re: US taxes - FBAR and Form 8938 requirements for IBKR?

Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2022 7:20 am
by akiaji
For everybody's reference, I heard back from IBKR on this. They confirmed that the funds are held with a US institution and a 1099 is issued, so no separate reporting via FBAR or 8938 required. I am waiting to see if my US tax accountant raises any flags, but looks good for now. IBKR is quite the savior for us US folk living in Japan. :D

Re: US taxes - FBAR and Form 8938 requirements for IBKR?

Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2022 11:30 am
by FlamingWombat
captainspoke wrote: Sat Mar 05, 2022 11:14 am Yep--I agree that's confusing... :shock: :?: :!:
Yeah, it sounds weird, but to access the international IBLLC account while residing in Japan you have to go through the Japanese portal site.

Re: US taxes - FBAR and Form 8938 requirements for IBKR?

Posted: Sat Jun 03, 2023 5:17 am
by gogakuhei
akiaji wrote: Wed Mar 09, 2022 7:20 am For everybody's reference, I heard back from IBKR on this. They confirmed that the funds are held with a US institution and a 1099 is issued, so no separate reporting via FBAR or 8938 required. I am waiting to see if my US tax accountant raises any flags, but looks good for now. IBKR is quite the savior for us US folk living in Japan. :D
This needs a little more love. Thanks for checking with IBKR, and thanks for sharing the response with all of us.

Re: US taxes - FBAR and Form 8938 requirements for IBKR?

Posted: Sun Apr 07, 2024 5:44 am
by FlamingWombat
I wonder how this has changed with the migration to IBSJ accounts, in terms of FBAR reporting...

Re: US taxes - FBAR and Form 8938 requirements for IBKR?

Posted: Wed Aug 14, 2024 11:31 am
by 10-7
FlamingWombat wrote: Sun Apr 07, 2024 5:44 am I wonder how this has changed with the migration to IBSJ accounts, in terms of FBAR reporting...
I just asked IBSJ about this and was told my account is reportable to the IRS as a foreign financial asset.
So, US persons should be reporting IBSJ accounts on both the FBAR and Form 8938 (assuming thresholds are met).