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Saving on travel

Posted: Tue Aug 17, 2021 2:52 pm
by JimNasium
It’d love to hear from you guys some tips for traveling without breaking the bank.

I tend to travel domestically more than internationally. For booking hotels and rental cars I find Jalan to be the best here. Plus I can use my Loppi points there to get a bit of a price reduction.

One of the most expensive parts of renting a car is the daily insurance fee. But every once and a while you can find a campaign for free insurance, which greatly reduces the cost of the rental car.

If you’re feeling adventurous (and don’t mind long train rides) three times a year JR offers the Seishun 18 kippu. It’s a five day (non-consecutive) train pass that can be used only on the local and rapid trains, but for about 12,000 yen for 5 days of unlimited travel it’s an excellent deal. I’ve found a ton of great local places using this.

A lot of cities will have local one day transportation passes that allow you to use the trams and buses (and sometimes ferries) all you want. You’ll quickly save a ton of money buying these, and it will increase your exploration range quite a bit.

Camping in the mountains is fairly popular here, but don’t forget about beach camping too. It’s super cheap (or usually free) and these are honestly some of my best memories here in Japan. Getting a few friends together, setting up tents, getting a little beach fire going. You won’t have to pay for a hotel, and getting out in the wild is extremely satisfying (at least for me).

Re: Saving on travel

Posted: Tue Aug 17, 2021 11:43 pm
by pfdsa
As far as I know, you just pretty much wrote down every tip :D

For booking hotels I use either Jalan, Agoda or Booking, since those 3 tend to have the cheaper deals.

For the rental car, I think that the only solution is to use those comparison websites and look up for the best deal. For the gas/diesel, fill up your tank if you pass through a Costco and have their subscription. Also make use of the ETC if you have to use the highway (you get a discount if you travel after the midnight/weekends).

Camping sites in Japan for some reason are quite expensive for what they offer, and the ones I been to so far you also have to pay for the shower...so I too love to beach camping. Just don't forget to check if they allow you to get those campfires going.

For international travelling I tend to use either Booking or Airbnb for the hotels, and Skyscanner/Momondo to look for the cheapest flight.

Re: Saving on travel

Posted: Wed Aug 18, 2021 12:13 am
by zeroshiki
One thing I learned for local trips is that "tours" are oftentimes better than booking the hotel and plane/shinkansen separately. Don't be turned off by the "tour" name, there's no tour guide or anything. Its just a package of accomodation and travel.
There's a bunch of sites that does tour comparisons so you can look through all the different options.

Re: Saving on travel

Posted: Tue Sep 21, 2021 4:03 am
by TJKansai
Daily Getaways is coming back next month.

Basically it is a chance to get travel points on the cheap.

The best deals are Hyatt (only the luckiest score a package before they sell out) and Choice.

Marriott Gift cards are also decent for those who stay at their properties. In the past I didn't book them as I thought they were expensive, but during Go To I stayed quite a few times for ¥10,000 or so.

The Choice points usually sell during the Getaway at .5 cents each, and since 8,000-12,000 points can get you a room for 2 in Tokyo with breakfast, it is a pretty nice deal. There are also good uses of points in Scandinavia, and on occasion transfers to United Airlines or Alaska can make sense.

There is an expiration of 18 months, but that can be extended if you buy or transfer points (doesn't need to be much).

https://www.ustravel.org/programs/daily-getaways

Re: Saving on travel

Posted: Tue Sep 21, 2021 5:10 am
by Tkydon

Re: Saving on travel

Posted: Wed Sep 22, 2021 12:44 am
by beanhead
Could be a good deal to travel within a specific region. I thought about using it for Tokyo - the west and then realized that unlike the original Rail Pass it is not applicable across the nation for us.

Re: Saving on travel

Posted: Wed Sep 22, 2021 3:29 am
by Tkydon
beanhead wrote: Wed Sep 22, 2021 12:44 am Could be a good deal to travel within a specific region. I thought about using it for Tokyo - the west and then realized that unlike the original Rail Pass it is not applicable across the nation for us.
Unfortunately, I don't think the 'original Rail Pass' is applicable to anyone any longer...

That's what privatization and separation of Operating Entities does...

https://japanrailpass.net/en/

There is no longer a National JR, and so no longer an Operating-Entity-spanning National Passport...

Re: Saving on travel

Posted: Wed Sep 22, 2021 3:52 am
by beanhead
Tkydon wrote: Wed Sep 22, 2021 3:29 am
Unfortunately, I don't think the 'original Rail Pass' is applicable to anyone any longer...

That's what privatization and separation of Operating Entities does...

https://japanrailpass.net/en/

There is no longer a National JR, and so no longer an Operating-Entity-spanning National Passport...
From the page you provided above, it looks like the Japan Rail Pass is unchanged:

JAPAN RAIL PASS, a joint offering of the six companies comprising the Japan Railways Group (JR Group), is the economical and convenient means of traveling throughout Japan by rail.

Re: Saving on travel

Posted: Wed Sep 22, 2021 4:47 am
by RetireJapan
Yeah, the new passes available in country for residents are not the same as the original Japan Rail Pass (which is still available, but can't be used as anyone that qualifies for it isn't allowed to enter the country) ;)

Re: Saving on travel

Posted: Wed Sep 22, 2021 6:14 am
by Tkydon
I stand corrected.

I contacted JR directly from the Japan Rail Pass website, and this was their response:

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The JAPAN RAIL PASS is a special fare ticket available only to travelers visiting
Japan from foreign countries for sightseeing.
If you do not meet the qualifications for using the JAPAN RAIL PASS, you cannot
pick it up even if you could purchase it online.
However, JR companies have various rail passes Foreign Residents of Japan can
purchase easily.
You can check them on the websites from the following URLs.

-Hokkaido https://www.jrhokkaido.co.jp/global/eng ... index.html
-Kanto/Tohoku https://www.jreast.co.jp/multi/en/pass/index.html
-Tokai/Shinkansen https://global.jr-central.co.jp/en/onlinebooking/
-Kansai https://www.westjr.co.jp/global/en/ticket/pass/
-Shikoku https://shikoku-railwaytrip.com/railpass.html
-Kyushu http://www.jrkyushu.co.jp/english/railp ... lpass.html

End Quote.

and

Quote

We are sorry we have no idea why that information appeared in the magazine,
though the JR Group has never opened the JRP to Foreign Residents of Japan before.
As in the email we sent, we have been posting the information provided on our
website since the beginning.
Please visit the following website for correct information.
https://japanrailpass.net/en/about_jrp.html#anchor02

End Quote


Therefore, the representations in Time-Out, Tokyo Weekender, and other magazines was misleading...