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Re: NISA General Questions | SBI
Posted: Mon Feb 26, 2024 11:17 am
by CluelessToshika
CluelessToshika wrote: ↑Fri Feb 23, 2024 6:08 am
Moneymatters wrote: ↑Fri Feb 23, 2024 5:15 am
Trying to follow a purchase until it’s complete is like a “which fisherman caught the fish” puzzle.
In terms of whether you picked NISA and which type maybe trying looking at your remaining NISA allowance for this year and see if it’s reduced already. I seem to recall that’s updated early in the transaction lifecycle. But I could be wrong about that.
It's still on 2.4 million, but it wouldn't surprise me if the update wheels turn very slowly, based on what I've seen so far. Guess I'll know for certain by the 28th (受渡日).
Right, so I purchased some more NISA growth funds today (being very careful to click the NISA button), and the NISA allowances were adjusted downwards by the purchase amount for those funds, so I conclude my first purchase was erroneously non-NISA.
Not a problem per-se, as I can easily max out my NISA allowance this year with plenty of change to spare, but out of curiosity, is it possible to directly convert a non-NISA purchase to NISA? I suspect not but would it be useful to know.
So far I am up 101 yen (100 yen from T-points, and 1 yen from no idea where but I guess something was rounded up.
Re: NISA General Questions | SBI
Posted: Mon Feb 26, 2024 11:34 am
by adamu
CluelessToshika wrote: ↑Mon Feb 26, 2024 11:17 am
is it possible to directly convert a non-NISA purchase to NISA?
No.
Re: NISA General Questions | SBI
Posted: Mon Feb 26, 2024 11:50 am
by RetireJapan
anrhmn wrote: ↑Mon Feb 26, 2024 11:00 am
a transaction password
This is normally a PIN and is a safety feature to make sure that someone who gains access to your login details is not able to trade without also knowing the PIN.
Re: NISA General Questions | SBI
Posted: Mon Feb 26, 2024 12:34 pm
by Moneymatters
CluelessToshika wrote: ↑Mon Feb 26, 2024 11:17 am
CluelessToshika wrote: ↑Fri Feb 23, 2024 6:08 am
Moneymatters wrote: ↑Fri Feb 23, 2024 5:15 am
Trying to follow a purchase until it’s complete is like a “which fisherman caught the fish” puzzle.
In terms of whether you picked NISA and which type maybe trying looking at your remaining NISA allowance for this year and see if it’s reduced already. I seem to recall that’s updated early in the transaction lifecycle. But I could be wrong about that.
It's still on 2.4 million, but it wouldn't surprise me if the update wheels turn very slowly, based on what I've seen so far. Guess I'll know for certain by the 28th (受渡日).
Right, so I purchased some more NISA growth funds today (being very careful to click the NISA button), and the NISA allowances were adjusted downwards by the purchase amount for those funds, so I conclude my first purchase was erroneously non-NISA.
Ha! So it seems I was right about the available allowance reducing!
Re: NISA General Questions | SBI
Posted: Mon Feb 26, 2024 5:38 pm
by adamu
RetireJapan wrote: ↑Mon Feb 26, 2024 11:50 am
anrhmn wrote: ↑Mon Feb 26, 2024 11:00 am
a transaction password
This is normally a PIN and is a safety feature to make sure that someone who gains access to your login details is not able to trade without also knowing the PIN.
It's definitely not a PIN on SBI. Maybe that used to be possible but now it looks like it needs to be between 10 and 20 chars, have numbers, letters and symbols...
Re: NISA General Questions | SBI
Posted: Tue Feb 27, 2024 12:14 am
by beanhead
adamu wrote: ↑Mon Feb 26, 2024 5:38 pm
RetireJapan wrote: ↑Mon Feb 26, 2024 11:50 am
anrhmn wrote: ↑Mon Feb 26, 2024 11:00 am
a transaction password
This is normally a PIN and is a safety feature to make sure that someone who gains access to your login details is not able to trade without also knowing the PIN.
It's definitely not a PIN on SBI. Maybe that used to be possible but now it looks like it needs to be between 10 and 20 chars, have numbers, letters and symbols...
Off-topic perhaps since this is about SBI, but Monex also changed from a short password to a longer one for transactions last year (2023).
Re: NISA General Questions | SBI
Posted: Tue Feb 27, 2024 12:34 am
by RetireJapan
Interesting. So it's only Rakuten that still has a PIN?
Re: NISA General Questions | SBI
Posted: Tue Feb 27, 2024 6:28 am
by CluelessToshika
adamu wrote: ↑Mon Feb 26, 2024 11:34 am
CluelessToshika wrote: ↑Mon Feb 26, 2024 11:17 am
is it possible to directly convert a non-NISA purchase to NISA?
No.
I guessed that would be the case, but I have bad habit of forming my own conclusions and not sanity-checking them, so thought I'd better ask. (It is most liberating to declare myself as clueless
).
Moneymatters wrote: ↑Mon Feb 26, 2024 12:34 pm
CluelessToshika wrote: ↑Mon Feb 26, 2024 11:17 am
CluelessToshika wrote: ↑Fri Feb 23, 2024 6:08 am
It's still on 2.4 million, but it wouldn't surprise me if the update wheels turn very slowly, based on what I've seen so far. Guess I'll know for certain by the 28th (受渡日).
Right, so I purchased some more NISA growth funds today (being very careful to click the NISA button), and the NISA allowances were adjusted downwards by the purchase amount for those funds, so I conclude my first purchase was erroneously non-NISA.
Ha! So it seems I was right about the available allowance reducing!
Yup
.
Meanwhile I'm once again in the situation where the NISA purchases have vanished into some limbo I'm unable to locate, though I can deduce their existence from the NISA allowance changes and the remaining 買付余力 . I assume they'll surface in a day or two (or I'm just not looking in the right place).
In other news proud to report that my first fund purchase (the one which should have been NISA but wasn't) appears to be active and I am now a pre-tax 20,000 yen or so richer, so I'll be off out to place a deposit on a private jet or yacht or something.
Re: NISA General Questions | SBI
Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2024 12:33 am
by CluelessToshika
CluelessToshika wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2024 6:28 am
Meanwhile I'm once again in the situation where the NISA purchases have vanished into some limbo I'm unable to locate, though I can deduce their existence from the NISA allowance changes and the remaining 買付余力 . I assume they'll surface in a day or two (or I'm just not looking in the right place).
FWIW they surfaced late last night, and are reflected in the "NISA資産残高", though not yet "active" (for want of the appropriate technical term).
Re: NISA General Questions | SBI
Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2024 8:06 am
by trajan
What is the maximum payment per month that can be made in NISA tsumitate?
Does it need to be 100,000 yen or can it be greater?
If monthly payments greater than 100,000 yen can be made and the NISA allocation for tsumitate for that year is fulfilled earlier, would the purchases stop automatically? Say, the payments are made via CC, would these stop?
I'm using Rakuten Securities, in case it matters.
Thank you.