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Re: Pending- Law to revoke the permanent residency status of foreign nationals who fail to pay taxes
Posted: Sat May 11, 2024 10:36 am
by TunaSki
captainspoke wrote: ↑Sat May 11, 2024 10:08 am
TunaSki wrote: ↑Sat May 11, 2024 9:01 am... So immigration would just need to design a system which automatically flags up bad pension, health insurance, tax records. ...
I guess that's sort of my point--why would immigrations need to design it? Shouldn't those other agencies/entities be doing their own respective parts? Or instead of immigrations (and tax authorities, and health and pension agencies), maybe those designing the overall MyNa system should be building in things that would aid/simplify catching not only PR deadbeats, but also anyone in the non-PR population who is behind on these things?
That the MyNa system would be flagging those with PR (and other types of visa holders), would then be a (simple) side effect of the overall system working to insure that everyone is complying.
Well I guess regardless of who would make the actual system immigration would use, isn’t really too relevant.
It would be immigration’s responsibility to ensure that those who are not paying when they should be paying, get their PR revoked.
It’s would benefit PR applications too, because it would streamline the whole process. Because instead of having to manually provide pension, health insurance, tax documents, for immigration to manually check them. Immigration can just access all that information directly via their own now linked to MyNumber system.
I remember in 2012 when I renewed my UK driving license (don’t worry I was a UK resident back then) and it was great, I didn’t need to provide a new photo, because it automatically got it from my current UK passport. That’s because the UK digital infrastructure has been linked for ages. Japan is now catching up.
Re: Pending- Law to revoke the permanent residency status of foreign nationals who fail to pay taxes
Posted: Sat May 11, 2024 11:27 am
by Beaglehound
Another article on this in the Mainichi today. This time providing much better context. Apparently the rate of nenkin payment non-compliance amongst the whole of the population is double that of the immigration sample...
https://mainichi.jp/english/articles/20 ... na/008000c
Re: Pending- Law to revoke the permanent residency status of foreign nationals who fail to pay taxes
Posted: Sat May 11, 2024 12:11 pm
by Tkydon
From a discussion on a different platform, it seems the Municipal Offices are very delinquent in informing new registrants that they also need to register for the National Health Insurance and National Pension.
If new registrants are not informed, they will not know and will not receive payment demands...
Registration should be automatic on Registering Moving In, or at least part of the Registering Moving In procedure...
People were saying they were never informed, though enrollment is compulsory.
It seems the blame rests squarely with the Municipal Offices.
Re: Pending- Law to revoke the permanent residency status of foreign nationals who fail to pay taxes
Posted: Sat May 11, 2024 12:35 pm
by Beaglehound
Tkydon wrote: ↑Sat May 11, 2024 12:11 pm
From a discussion on a different platform, it seems the Municipal Offices are very delinquent in informing new registrants that they also need to register for the National Health Insurance and National Pension.
If new registrants are not informed, they will not know and will not receive payment demands...
Registration should be automatic on Registering Moving In, or at least part of the Registering Moving In procedure...
People were saying they were never informed, though enrollment is compulsory.
It seems the blame rests squarely with the Municipal Offices.
Perhaps we ought to deport the responsible municipal office staff then
On a serious note, the government is tying itself in knots on this. To try to extrapolate from their tiny unrepresentative sample to the entire PR population is a stretch, and doesn't seem to show a particular issue in any case. I am encouraged that opposition politicians are recognising this, whether they are motivated by concern for PRs or bashing the government.