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Re: New NISA strategy -GO!
Posted: Mon May 15, 2023 2:31 am
by beanhead
adamu wrote: ↑Mon May 08, 2023 11:54 pm
However, for the majority, just setting up monthly investments of
up to ¥300k/mo is the way to go.
Important to emphasize the up to, I think. 3.6M a year is a large amount to invest on most salaries. Given that most working people should look at iDeCo first, the likelihood of being able to max everything out is quite low.
As noted by someone else, for those young enough (around 30?), 100k a month plus their iDeCo is a great strategy.
As you said before, Adamu, we don't want to scare people away. 50k a month, 100k a month, whatever you can afford will all be fruitful in the end.
Slow and steady...
Re: New NISA strategy -GO!
Posted: Tue May 23, 2023 6:29 am
by banders
1) If you wait until January to sell a current-NISA rollover, it will go into your taxable a/c first before you re-buy, thereby maybe creating a taxable event (= paperwork). If you sell in December, the cash will simply go into your cash fund with no reporting required. Isn't that easier?
2) I already routinely pay ¥120k pm into NISA (eMaxis All Country). Will I have to set up a standing order for ¥100k and pay the other ¥20k manually?
Re: New NISA strategy -GO!
Posted: Tue May 23, 2023 3:25 pm
by adamu
banders wrote: ↑Tue May 23, 2023 6:29 am
1) If you wait until January to sell a current-NISA rollover, it will go into your taxable a/c first before you re-buy, thereby maybe creating a taxable event (= paperwork). If you sell in December, the cash will simply go into your cash fund with no reporting required. Isn't that easier?
Yes. But if you use a tax collecting tokutei kouza and don't claim any tax deductions on your tax return (such as the dividend deduction or foreign tax deduction) then there's not much in it. It might be more confusing if you wait until next year, because the amount you can reinvest will be lower than the amount you sold for, if capital gains tax is deducted automatically.
banders wrote: ↑Tue May 23, 2023 6:29 am
2) I already routinely pay ¥120k pm into NISA (eMaxis All Country). Will I have to set up a standing order for ¥100k and pay the other ¥20k manually?
There aren't any details yet about how the regular/growth allowances will be managed in terms of monthly contributions, as far as I know.
Re: New NISA strategy -GO!
Posted: Tue May 30, 2023 2:49 pm
by zak
I have 1.2M in NISA2023 and estimate about 2M in taxable by the end of year. If monex going to give juicy point up to 100k from credit card I'm gonna ride with it. Probably 50k from salary and 50k from selling taxable assets. That's 600k over a year from taxable. Remaining 1.4M sell and buy over some period in January. I'm afraid of sudden market moves so going to sell 100k per day. Will top it to 3.6M by the end of year with any bonus money left and maybe selling some NISA2023.
Re: New NISA strategy -GO!
Posted: Tue May 30, 2023 11:42 pm
by beanhead
zak wrote: ↑Tue May 30, 2023 2:49 pm
If monex going to give juicy point up to 100k from credit card I'm gonna ride with it.
Have they said they will do this? It is still 50,000 per month max at the moment, I think.
Re: New NISA strategy -GO!
Posted: Tue May 30, 2023 11:58 pm
by zeroshiki
I just searched and the only news about Monex's tsumitate recently is they've disallowed bond funds for the CC tsumitate.
Re: New NISA strategy -GO!
Posted: Wed May 31, 2023 1:02 am
by zak
beanhead wrote: ↑Tue May 30, 2023 11:42 pm
zak wrote: ↑Tue May 30, 2023 2:49 pm
If monex going to give juicy point up to 100k from credit card I'm gonna ride with it.
Have they said they will do this? It is still 50,000 per month max at the moment, I think.
Don't know, I'm only guessing.
Hope they do some announcement before the end of year.
All brokers are having this 50k limit? No changes in line with new NISA rules?
Re: New NISA strategy -GO!
Posted: Wed May 31, 2023 4:26 am
by eyeswideshut
zak wrote: ↑Wed May 31, 2023 1:02 am
beanhead wrote: ↑Tue May 30, 2023 11:42 pm
zak wrote: ↑Tue May 30, 2023 2:49 pm
If monex going to give juicy point up to 100k from credit card I'm gonna ride with it.
Have they said they will do this? It is still 50,000 per month max at the moment, I think.
Don't know, I'm only guessing.
Hope they do some announcement before the end of year.
All brokers are having this 50k limit? No changes in line with new NISA rules?
Rakuten will allow 100,000 per month (50K CC and 50K Rakuten Cash)
https://www.rakuten-sec.co.jp/web/lp/ts ... sa_portal/
I have never used Rakuten Cash but understand it can be funded with my Rakuten CC so will need to figure that one out.
Re: New NISA strategy -GO!
Posted: Wed May 31, 2023 11:46 pm
by beanhead
I started doing this recently. It is pretty simple.
I am just 'saving' money in the eMaxis Slim developed country bond fund to help fund next year's super-duper new NISA.
Re: New NISA strategy -GO!
Posted: Thu Jun 01, 2023 11:22 am
by adamu
beanhead wrote: ↑Wed May 31, 2023 11:46 pm
developed country bond fund
Debt ceiling