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Re: Bitcoin: So at the end of the day, is it worth it?

Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2024 4:32 am
by RetireJapan
Yutaka2024 wrote: Tue Feb 13, 2024 3:52 am im not in japan
But this forum is for people in Japan (or planning to move here, etc.).

Re: Bitcoin: So at the end of the day, is it worth it?

Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2024 6:16 am
by Yutaka2024
yup planning by the end of the year

Re: Bitcoin: So at the end of the day, is it worth it?

Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2024 1:29 am
by sutebayashi
All this excitement about crypto encouraged me to clean up my stuff, and I sold my crypto this week.

Now I want to get the money out of my bitFlyer account and they are going to charge me money for the pleasure :?

Amusingly the fee goes UP for larger withdrawal amounts!

I am mildly curious if there is some hack to get around this; perhaps there is a better option than bitFlyer to use for withdrawals?
(I withdraw money from various financial service providers but this cost is typically one that they cover, not charge customers for.)

Re: Bitcoin: So at the end of the day, is it worth it?

Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2024 1:44 am
by adamu
sutebayashi wrote: Wed Feb 14, 2024 1:29 am Now I want to get the money out of my bitFlyer account and they are going to charge me money for the pleasure :?

Amusingly the fee goes UP for larger withdrawal amounts!
It looks like the maximum fee is ¥770 including tax.
https://bitflyer.com/en-jp/s/commission

I doubt any shenanigans to avoid that would be worth it.

Re: Bitcoin: So at the end of the day, is it worth it?

Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2024 6:00 am
by sutebayashi
I’m taking a shot at the withdrawal.
Really bad user interface! I have put in the amount to withdraw, and manually subtract the withdrawal cost from my total balance.
Looking forward to seeing if I can receive the money without bank account name mismatch issues :)

Re: Bitcoin: So at the end of the day, is it worth it?

Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2024 6:31 am
by adamu
Dont forget to calculate your gains (and "necessary expenses") and put it as miscellaneous income on your tax return next year. 💸

Re: Bitcoin: So at the end of the day, is it worth it?

Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2024 7:06 am
by sutebayashi
I wish I could charge my time as an expense.

I will indeed endeavor not to forget to calculate and report my profits a year from now; pretty meager though they are.

Re: Bitcoin: So at the end of the day, is it worth it?

Posted: Mon Feb 26, 2024 10:40 pm
by Yutaka2024
bitcoin gonna hit ath before the havening :)

Re: Bitcoin: So at the end of the day, is it worth it?

Posted: Tue Feb 27, 2024 12:08 pm
by Gulliver
The irrational exuberance manifested whenever this topic comes up is enough to keep me away. We see it over and over with other Ponzi schemes and the cult-like rationalizations postulated by their victims- right before their lives are destroyed.

Re: Bitcoin: So at the end of the day, is it worth it?

Posted: Tue Feb 27, 2024 12:21 pm
by sutebayashi
Yeah. I might be convinced to again one day put up to 1% of my portfolio in it, but it’d be a “position”, unless it starts to exhibit some more utility in society.

I would be applying the “don't marry a position, just date it” advice.