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Re: New English Furusato Nozei Site
Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2022 10:49 am
by bryanc
bryanc wrote: ↑Thu Nov 24, 2022 10:44 am
waslooking at the calculator on furusato japan..
they have an example as below...
apologies for the stupid question but the bit idont quite follow is that at the very bottom, it states that 34,800en will be deduced from the juuminzei..
but they are saying that 41,000 is subtracted..
i can see that this is the difference between kihonbun and tokureibun but dont really understand what this is/what the difference is?
所得税 約2,100円 + ❷住民税 4,100円 + ❸住民税 約34,800円 = 合計 約41,000円が控除に!
納税額計算式の説明
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❶ 所得税からの還付 =(ふるさと納税の寄付金額 - 2,000円)×(所得税の税率(0~45%)×1.021)
《ふるさとさんの場合》約2,100円=(43,000円 - 2,000円)×(5%×1.021)
年収400万円の独身者の方は、寄付金上限額の43,000円から実質負担2,000円を差し引いた金額が、所得税と住民税からの還付・控除対象になります。年収400万円の所得税率は5%(所得税率は課税総所得の額によっては異なります)。実質負担2,000円を差し引いた41,000円を寄付すると、約2,100円が還付されます。
❷ 住民税からの控除(基本分) = (ふるさと納税の寄付金額 - 2,000円)×10%
《ふるさとさんの場合》約4,100円=(43,000円 - 2,000円)×10%
年収400万円の独身者の場合、43,000円を寄付すると、4,100円が住民税から控除されます。
❸ 住民税からの控除(特例分) = (ふるさと納税の寄付金額 - 2,000円)×(90% - 所得税率×1.021)※1
《ふるさとさんの場合》約34,800円=(43,000円 - 2,000円)×(90% - 5%×1.021)
住民税からの控除特例分は、住民税所得割額の2割を超えない場合、上記の計算式です。年収400万円の独身者または共働きの方が43,000円を寄付すると、約34,800円が住民税から控除されます
Re: New English Furusato Nozei Site
Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2022 10:53 am
by bryanc
the reason i was asking is that was ck tax return from last year which states the amount my wife recvd back at th bottom...this is quite a bit less than actually paid for furusato nozei was so was trying to work out what the difference was/if all the deduction was stated to try to avoid same overpaying issue this yr..calculator doesnt seem to have calculated correctly.
Re: New English Furusato Nozei Site
Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2022 11:09 am
by bryanc
bryanc wrote: ↑Thu Nov 24, 2022 10:53 am
the reason i was asking is that was ck tax return from this yr which states the amount my wife recvd back at th bottom...this is quite a bit less than actually paid for furusato nozei was so was trying to work out what the difference was/if all the deduction was stated to try to avoid same overpaying issue this yr.
.calculator doesnt seem to have calculated correctly.or it has been deducted somewhere else which is not marked(presume unlikely)
Re: New English Furusato Nozei Site
Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2022 3:16 pm
by zeroshiki
No, that one is saying 3 kinds of taxes will get reduced. Income tax, residence tax and residence tax again. The 34,800 deduction is for the 3rd one. If you add 1 and 2 to 34,800 you will get 41,000.
Re: New English Furusato Nozei Site
Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2022 9:26 pm
by bryanc
thanks-so this is my question-is the amount marked here the total reduced or is there more which is not marked?
if this is all that was reduced would seeem spent too much last yr and calculator was incorrect..
Re: New English Furusato Nozei Site
Posted: Fri Nov 25, 2022 1:12 am
by zeroshiki
It would be the sum of those so around 55k was deducted.
Re: New English Furusato Nozei Site
Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2022 3:29 am
by bryanc
thats what i thought!thanks.. seems lot less than the calculators please advise for use.. this was my wifes one -i dont get such a slip from work..sorry if silly question is there a way to find how much was taken off from juuminzei for the furusato nozei?(i have tried calc compared to last year but seems unclear as variance in salary ) Also when does the rebate kick in from? april juuminzei payments?
Re: New English Furusato Nozei Site
Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2022 5:25 am
by bryanc
whn can you start doing new orders for the following yrs rebate?is it from jan 30?
Re: New English Furusato Nozei Site
Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2022 6:35 am
by sutebayashi
You mean when will donations count for 2023 and not 2022?
At least for me, doing it via Kakutei Shinkoku, the key thing is to make the payment in the calendar year. When I made credit card payments on New Year’s Eve, I would receive a certificate via post a few days into the New Year and never had any trouble using them that March when submitting kakutei shinkoku materials.
Personally I don’t like to make these donations too early in the year, because the tax cash back doesn’t come until the next year.
Re: New English Furusato Nozei Site
Posted: Fri Jan 27, 2023 5:21 am
by bryanc
thanks-so its ok to start buying stuff now and it will count as part of 2023?(with the deduction from next yr)