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Moneymatters wrote: ↑Sun Jan 26, 2025 7:55 am If I cash out all my ideco and the net amount is 1,200,000 yen what income/resident tax would be payable?

Assuming I have no other income that tax year.

(My net amount is the total of the account at time of selling, less the annual deductions for years contributing then halved.)

Depends how long you have been paying into it! I am writing a blog post about iDeCo taxation at the moment

Moneymatters wrote: ↑Sun Jan 26, 2025 7:55 am If I cash out all my ideco and the net amount is 1,200,000 yen what income/resident tax would be payable?

Assuming I have no other income that tax year.

(My net amount is the total of the account at time of selling, less the annual deductions for years contributing then halved.)

Accounting for the basic deduction and not including 2024's 30k allowance per household member, and assuming you didn't pay any social insurance, ¥36,400 (5% of (1.2M - 480k) plus special reconstruction). But if you paid any insurance that'll be deducted from income too, so probably less.

It looks like residence tax might be 10% but I'm not sure.

You can play with the numbers at kaikei7.com

adamu wrote: ↑Sun Jan 26, 2025 8:57 am

Moneymatters wrote: ↑Sun Jan 26, 2025 7:55 am If I cash out all my ideco and the net amount is 1,200,000 yen what income/resident tax would be payable?

Assuming I have no other income that tax year.

(My net amount is the total of the account at time of selling, less the annual deductions for years contributing then halved.)

Accounting for the basic deduction and not including 2024's 30k allowance per household member, and assuming you didn't pay any social insurance, ¥36,400 (5% of (1.2M - 480k) plus special reconstruction). But if you paid any insurance that'll be deducted from income too, so probably less.

It looks like residence tax might be 10% but I'm not sure.

You can play with the numbers at kaikei7.com

Thx. So not eligible for the 60万 public pension allowance for those under 65?

https://www.nenkin.go.jp/faq/jukyu/juky ... 21-12.html

That 60+48 would bring the total to 108万 for the allowance. For someone under 65..

Edit.(note to self. Read the wiki!)

Ok. So I need to opt for the pension to get the pension allowance. And that’s a min for 5 years as pension.
I’ll do that..

From wiki.

” If opting for a pension, a Pension Income Deduction (公的年金等控除) applies.“

Moneymatters wrote: ↑Sun Jan 26, 2025 9:52 am Ok. So I need to opt for the pension to get the pension allowance. And that’s a min for 5 years as pension.
I’ll do that..

From wiki.

” If opting for a pension, a Pension Income Deduction (公的年金等控除) applies.“

I looked into it a bit more, and it looks like pension payments are subject to 5.1% witholding tax, so you might have to do a tax return to apply the deduction. I'm not sure though, it doesn't seem likely that the deduction wouldn't be applied to most people by default.

adamu wrote: ↑Tue Jan 28, 2025 3:47 am

Moneymatters wrote: ↑Sun Jan 26, 2025 9:52 am Ok. So I need to opt for the pension to get the pension allowance. And that’s a min for 5 years as pension.
I’ll do that..

From wiki.

” If opting for a pension, a Pension Income Deduction (公的年金等控除) applies.“

I looked into it a bit more, and it looks like pension payments are subject to 5.1% witholding tax, so you might have to do a tax return to apply the deduction. I'm not sure though, it doesn't seem likely that the deduction wouldn't be applied to most people by default.

Lump sum it is then.
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