RetireJapan

AlanJH wrote: ↑Sat Mar 09, 2024 11:05 am I really don't fancy been an old guy in a country I can only speak a few get by words.

You've got a few decades to master the language. Should be doable.

AlanJH wrote: ↑Sat Mar 09, 2024 11:05 am I'm also stressing about this situation and don't get my pension until end of 2033.
I really don't fancy been an old guy in a country I can only speak a few get by words.
But on the other side of the coin, I'm not to keen on my wife having to cope with the NHS system in the uk as she gets older.
This is a definite catch 22.
What other country could we move to for retirement?
Not rich, own nice but not particularly high priced selling property in Japan, so our financial situation would be an issue.
This is a double whammy nightmare I don't want to think about, but do, every bloody day.

It is a worry, but the UK is making it so hard to take a foreign wife home that that option may not exist anyway! I kind of think we need to have a sort of society for old gaijin where we look out for each other. I think Retire Japan can be the catalyst when all those that are now talking about their future retirement are actually living that reality!

An English-speaking retirement village would be nice. If we declared independence, we could have some greenery, too. It'd take some getting used to living with foreigners, though.

banders wrote: ↑Sat Mar 09, 2024 12:17 pm An English-speaking retirement village would be nice. If we declared independence, we could have some greenery, too. It'd take some getting used to living with foreigners, though.

There is such a place, actually.
The Kokusai Mura on the edge of Lake Noji in Nagano becomes an international summer camp for July and August. These days perhaps 30% are Japanese and 50% mixed nationality.

Out of season, it is more a like a retirement village, since village employment is very limited and the nearest large city is Nagano, 45 minutes away. Not an easy place to live though, given the large amounts of snow and limited car access.

TJKansai wrote: ↑Sun Mar 10, 2024 12:23 am...
The Kokusai Mura on the edge of Lake Noji in Nagano becomes an international summer camp for July and August. These days perhaps 30% are Japanese and 50% mixed nationality.

Out of season, it is more a like a retirement village, since village employment is very limited and the nearest large city is Nagano, 45 minutes away. Not an easy place to live though, given the large amounts of snow and limited car access.

I haven't heard of this, but will ask--a fellow retiree is coming over wednesday. He spent his early life in shikoku, child of missionaries, who spent a few or more summers there over the years. From his telling of it, old style hand pumps to get water, and outhouses, but still fun. This would probably have been in the late 50s, maybe into the (late-ish?) 60s.

captainspoke wrote: ↑Sun Mar 10, 2024 6:03 am

TJKansai wrote: ↑Sun Mar 10, 2024 12:23 am...
The Kokusai Mura on the edge of Lake Noji in Nagano becomes an international summer camp for July and August. These days perhaps 30% are Japanese and 50% mixed nationality.

Out of season, it is more a like a retirement village, since village employment is very limited and the nearest large city is Nagano, 45 minutes away. Not an easy place to live though, given the large amounts of snow and limited car access.

I haven't heard of this, but will ask--a fellow retiree is coming over wednesday. He spent his early life in shikoku, child of missionaries, who spent a few or more summers there over the years. From his telling of it, old style hand pumps to get water, and outhouses, but still fun. This would probably have been in the late 50s, maybe into the (late-ish?) 60s.

That is it. The name is NLA, Nojiri Lake Association. Founded by missionaries 100 years ago.
They finally put city water in, so the hand-carrying water and outhouses are pretty much gone.
Still tough in winter though, as they get meters of snow and its on a hillside without many roads (almost none plowed).

TJKansai wrote: ↑Mon Mar 11, 2024 2:25 am

captainspoke wrote: ↑Sun Mar 10, 2024 6:03 am

TJKansai wrote: ↑Sun Mar 10, 2024 12:23 am...
The Kokusai Mura on the edge of Lake Noji in Nagano becomes an international summer camp for July and August. These days perhaps 30% are Japanese and 50% mixed nationality.

Out of season, it is more a like a retirement village, since village employment is very limited and the nearest large city is Nagano, 45 minutes away. Not an easy place to live though, given the large amounts of snow and limited car access.

I haven't heard of this, but will ask--a fellow retiree is coming over wednesday. He spent his early life in shikoku, child of missionaries, who spent a few or more summers there over the years. From his telling of it, old style hand pumps to get water, and outhouses, but still fun. This would probably have been in the late 50s, maybe into the (late-ish?) 60s.

That is it. The name is NLA, Nojiri Lake Association. Founded by missionaries 100 years ago.
They finally put city water in, so the hand-carrying water and outhouses are pretty much gone.
Still tough in winter though, as they get meters of snow and its on a hillside without many roads (almost none plowed).

This area's heydays are behind it. It was very nice to rent a cabin there in the summer recently, but the decline is pretty obvious. Not a place to grow old, a place to visit.

The strong religious roots remain, though everyone was very polite and not pushy.

Tsumitate Wrestler wrote: ↑Mon Mar 11, 2024 2:39 am
This area's heydays are behind it. It was very nice to rent a cabin there in the summer recently, but the decline is pretty obvious. Not a place to grow old, a place to visit.

The strong religious roots remain, though everyone was very polite and not pushy.

I agree that it is past its peak, though for a fit person looking for a quiet summer escape, it does fit the bill. For someone with bicultural kids/grandkids even more so.

TJKansai wrote: ↑Wed Mar 13, 2024 2:24 am

Tsumitate Wrestler wrote: ↑Mon Mar 11, 2024 2:39 am
This area's heydays are behind it. It was very nice to rent a cabin there in the summer recently, but the decline is pretty obvious. Not a place to grow old, a place to visit.

The strong religious roots remain, though everyone was very polite and not pushy.

I agree that it is past its peak, though for a fit person looking for a quiet summer escape, it does fit the bill. For someone with bicultural kids/grandkids even more so.

I agree with that! We enjoyed our time.

I recently did a Tokyo project related to Japanese eldercare facilities. I visited a facility and found it to be very similar to ones my parents had lived in the US. There are a range of facility types and care levels. One difference is that Japanese stay independent probably longer than in the US and also their overall health is better even right up until they pass.

Because of the qualified labor shortage these facilities have many foreign nationals on the staff, English speaking Filipino care workers are common. The projection is this type of semi-skilled labor will continue to increase. By chance as part of the project I met a local interpreter who had a grandparent living in one of the facilities. This person was born in the US and not of Japanese decent, but wanted to be close to her children who are living in Tokyo. So far the situation has worked out well, the person is a bit of an introvert but I believe there are a few residents who speak some English as well.

Japan actually has a plan for caring for the very large population who will need professional care. I can't say if it's enough to scale to the problem, but if you are living and working in Japan you are probably paying into the system that will provide some subsidies for this life stage. Like many things in Japan it seemed to be working and the residents I saw looked well taken care of and engaged. I laughed because I was there in the afternoon and they were playing bingo and eating cake. This is almost the identical afternoon routine my father's facility in Houston had. Of course it's hard to imagine one's self in this life situation but I found some comfort in seeing what was currently available.