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Re: UK state pension cancels direct debit (why?) and sends bill
Posted: Sat Jan 21, 2023 11:14 pm
by JimmyK
Sure, paying all back payments at once should avoid issues with HMRC’s odd system. Keeping direct debit in place going forward should then be fine. All well and good if your total back payments are a manageable sum, but not ideal if it’s a larger amount. In my case, I also wanted to test out the process first, by making only 1 year’s back payment initially. Call me a skeptic pessimist, but I’m glad I did as I did experience problems. In any case, with the April 5th deadline looming I guess most people will already have gathered together the necessary funds to pay it all off by now. Unless anyone’s expecting a windfall in the next few weeks!
Re: UK state pension cancels direct debit (why?) and sends bill
Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2023 11:44 pm
by Bushiman
Gareth wrote: ↑Sat Jan 21, 2023 7:03 am
Seems I’m the only supporter of direct debits haha!
I'm with you Gareth!
I made 12 years of back-payments first (Class 2 thankfully), then set up a direct debit with Nationwide... The money comes out monthly and for the last 3 years, everything has been fine.
Re: UK state pension cancels direct debit (why?) and sends bill
Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2023 11:54 am
by Bubblegun
Am I still correct in that once we hit the 35 year payment mark, there is no benefit to paying in any more?
Re: UK state pension cancels direct debit (why?) and sends bill
Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2023 1:18 pm
by Beaglehound
Bubblegun wrote: ↑Wed Jan 25, 2023 11:54 am
Am I still correct in that once we hit the 35 year payment mark, there is no benefit to paying in any more?
Yes
Re: UK state pension cancels direct debit (why?) and sends bill
Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2023 3:33 am
by Roger Van Zant
Beaglehound wrote: ↑Wed Jan 25, 2023 1:18 pm
Bubblegun wrote: ↑Wed Jan 25, 2023 11:54 am
Am I still correct in that once we hit the 35 year payment mark, there is no benefit to paying in any more?
Yes
I don't think this is true.
My dad paid in way more than 35 years, and his state pension is now significantly more than the current top limit.
Re: UK state pension cancels direct debit (why?) and sends bill
Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2023 4:47 am
by Bubblegun
I see. Ok I did the usual internet search and came up with this.
https://www.nidirect.gov.uk/articles/un ... sion#toc-0
You’ll need 35 qualifying years to get the new full State Pension if you do not have a National Insurance record before 6 April 2016.
Re: UK state pension cancels direct debit (why?) and sends bill
Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2023 4:53 am
by Wales4rugbyWC23
Roger Van Zant wrote: ↑Thu Feb 02, 2023 3:33 am
Beaglehound wrote: ↑Wed Jan 25, 2023 1:18 pm
Bubblegun wrote: ↑Wed Jan 25, 2023 11:54 am
Am I still correct in that once we hit the 35 year payment mark, there is no benefit to paying in any more?
Yes
I don't think this is true.
My dad paid in way more than 35 years, and his state pension is now significantly more than the current top limit.
This could be SERPS- state earnings related pension scheme, which has been in existence since about the late 70s, it has been wound down and integrated into the higher value new state pension.
Re: UK state pension cancels direct debit (why?) and sends bill
Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2023 4:58 am
by Bubblegun
Wales4rugbyWC19 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 02, 2023 4:53 am
Roger Van Zant wrote: ↑Thu Feb 02, 2023 3:33 am
I don't think this is true.
My dad paid in way more than 35 years, and his state pension is now significantly more than the current top limit.
This could be SERPS- state earnings related pension scheme, which has been in existence since about the late 70s, it has been wound down and integrated into the higher value new state pension.
That's what I was looking for. I knew there was some scheme which I remember Thatcher talking about. I also found this about the additional state pension, which makes this all complicated. By the Looks of it they've been wound down.
https://www.gov.uk/additional-state-pen ... acting-out
Re: UK state pension cancels direct debit (why?) and sends bill
Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2023 4:59 am
by Beaglehound
Wales4rugbyWC19 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 02, 2023 4:53 am
Roger Van Zant wrote: ↑Thu Feb 02, 2023 3:33 am
I don't think this is true.
My dad paid in way more than 35 years, and his state pension is now significantly more than the current top limit.
This could be SERPS- state earnings related pension scheme, which has been in existence since about the late 70s, it has been wound down and integrated into the higher value new state pension.
He may also be on the old state pension if born before April 1951.
Re: UK state pension cancels direct debit (why?) and sends bill
Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2023 5:02 am
by Beaglehound
Bubblegun wrote: ↑Thu Feb 02, 2023 4:58 am
Wales4rugbyWC19 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 02, 2023 4:53 am
Roger Van Zant wrote: ↑Thu Feb 02, 2023 3:33 am
I don't think this is true.
My dad paid in way more than 35 years, and his state pension is now significantly more than the current top limit.
This could be SERPS- state earnings related pension scheme, which has been in existence since about the late 70s, it has been wound down and integrated into the higher value new state pension.
That's what I was looking for. I knew there was some scheme which I remember Thatcher talking about. I also found this about the additional state pension, which makes this all complicated. By the Looks of it they've been wound down.
https://www.gov.uk/additional-state-pen ... acting-out
Your NI record should tell you how many more years you, individually, need to contribute to get the maximum payout. In general it is 35 years and there is no point paying more but there are some exceptions. See the wiki:
https://retirewiki.jp/wiki/United_Kingdom