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bryanc wrote: ↑Tue Nov 22, 2022 4:47 am two questions!

1.
regarding the ones which come without prepaid envelope etc-seems these are ones for payments under 10,000yen.is that correct?

2.
time of yr when making furusato nozei final purchases up to limit..
there was a link to a calculator on here but i always have trouble calculating it due to salaries etc changing during the year...
dont get the gensan til end of yr so very fiddly to work out..
is the calculation based from jan to dec salary,other payments etc or from april to march?

thanks!

1. No, this can be anything most likely. I did 50k last year for an air pot.
2. Furusato nozei limit is per year. The calculators are always just estimates based on your last year's income, thus tax bill. Most people's income don't change that wildly so its a good barometer. Always remember though that furusato nozei is a discount on future tax so if you lose your job or get a big promotion, that will affect it.

thanks-so this yrs salary from jan to dec is what i should use to calculate by?

bryanc wrote: ↑Tue Nov 22, 2022 5:57 am thanks-so this yrs salary from jan to dec is what i should use to calculate by?

Yeah, or just use last year's gensen choushuuhyou. It shouldn't be that different.

i see so not worth fiddling about it salary has gone up or down

bryanc wrote: ↑Tue Nov 22, 2022 6:24 am i see so not worth fiddling about it salary has gone up or down

It's all just estimates anyway. If you didn't really have that big of a change in income this year, last year's should be fine.

Salaried workers should receive the year’s gensen choshuuhyo in December - with job changes and family members taking leave from work, it can lead to changes in income that matter enough to make a difference.

To be sure, what I have done in recent years is do all my Furusato Nozei donations on New Year’s Eve, by which time I have the final annual salaried income info at hand, and while my partner enjoys the Kohaku Utagassen. It is becoming a New New Years tradition for us to do this work in the final few hours of the year! A credit card transaction on the 31st of December is enough to do the trick.

If you're doing onestop, that's a bad idea because you have to wait for them to mail you the forms and most of them require the onestop forms to be submitted (arrive at the city) by January 10th. I assume those will never arrive on time so you will be forced to do kakutei shinkoku.

Yes, I do kakutei shinkoku every year because I have other income to report, and so not a hassle in my case. I have never done the “one stop” method actually, so I don’t know what I am missing

zeroshiki wrote: ↑Tue Nov 22, 2022 1:12 pm If you're doing onestop, that's a bad idea because you have to wait for them to mail you the forms and most of them require the onestop forms to be submitted (arrive at the city) by January 10th. I assume those will never arrive on time so you will be forced to do kakutei shinkoku.

i agree ,but you can actually download the forms now right away after purchase..you dont get the free stamped envelope though unless you wait though.

was using the calculator on furusato japan..
they have an example as below...


所得税 約2,100円 ＋ ❷住民税 4,100円 ＋ ❸住民税 約34,800円 = 合計 約41,000円が控除に！
納税額計算式の説明
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❶ 所得税からの還付 =（ふるさと納税の寄付金額 － 2,000円）×（所得税の税率（0～45%)×1.021）
《ふるさとさんの場合》約2,100円=（43,000円 － 2,000円）×（5%×1.021）
年収400万円の独身者の方は、寄付金上限額の43,000円から実質負担2,000円を差し引いた金額が、所得税と住民税からの還付・控除対象になります。年収400万円の所得税率は5％（所得税率は課税総所得の額によっては異なります）。実質負担2,000円を差し引いた41,000円を寄付すると、約2,100円が還付されます。
❷ 住民税からの控除（基本分） = （ふるさと納税の寄付金額 － 2,000円）×10％
《ふるさとさんの場合》約4,100円=（43,000円 － 2,000円）×10%
年収400万円の独身者の場合、43,000円を寄付すると、4,100円が住民税から控除されます。
❸ 住民税からの控除（特例分） = （ふるさと納税の寄付金額 － 2,000円）×（90％ － 所得税率×1.021）※1
《ふるさとさんの場合》約34,800円=（43,000円 － 2,000円）×（90% － 5%×1.021）
住民税からの控除特例分は、住民税所得割額の2割を超えない場合、上記の計算式です。年収400万円の独身者または共働きの方が43,000円を寄付すると、約34,800円が住民税から控除されます