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Re: Becoming Japanese
Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2022 12:49 am
by bryanc
RetireJapan wrote: ↑Thu Aug 26, 2021 3:23 am
People born with dual nationality do not, in practice, need to give it up. They need to 'choose' Japanese nationality before turning 22, and then can just carry on without any consequences (unless they go into politics, ie see Renho).
This is very different from people who acquire a second nationality later in life. They are treated very strictly by the government, and the 'renounce other nationalities' is enforced. So it is vital not to mix them up when discussing this topic.
just to belatedly jump in on this..I agree with what Ben is writing..however,after 22 how do people on here(or their children) answer the question on the passport renewal form about do you have another nationality? do you say no or yes? presuming yes would cause trouble?
asking as eldest son slowly reaching this age.....
Re: Becoming Japanese
Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2022 1:04 am
by zeroshiki
bryanc wrote: ↑Wed Mar 23, 2022 12:49 am
RetireJapan wrote: ↑Thu Aug 26, 2021 3:23 am
People born with dual nationality do not, in practice, need to give it up. They need to 'choose' Japanese nationality before turning 22, and then can just carry on without any consequences (unless they go into politics, ie see Renho).
This is very different from people who acquire a second nationality later in life. They are treated very strictly by the government, and the 'renounce other nationalities' is enforced. So it is vital not to mix them up when discussing this topic.
just to belatedly jump in on this..I agree with what Ben is writing..however,after 22 how do people on here(or their children) answer the question on the passport renewal form about do you have another nationality? do you say no or yes? presuming yes would cause trouble?
asking as eldest son slowly reaching this age.....
From what I've read, you can answer it truthfully and there's no consequences. Japan has never stripped anyone (not even Renho or Naomi Osaka) of their Japanese citizenship for being dual citizen by birth and not removing the other one. (Not legal advice, I'm not a lawyer, just a guy on the internet)
Re: Becoming Japanese
Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2022 2:40 am
by bryanc
could you advise where you read this??
Re: Becoming Japanese
Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2022 2:58 am
by zeroshiki
There's a bunch of stuff on the internet (I think on the turning-japanese blog too) but I found this PDF from the French consulate:
https://solidairesaujapon.files.wordpre ... -v12-2.pdf
Basically, you are required to do it by 22, and its possible that the MOJ will contact you and ask you to do it but since the law was put in place, no one has ever been prosecuted.
The law says you need to endeavor 努力 to lose your other nationality, it doesn't say you have to be successful in doing so.
Re: Becoming Japanese
Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2022 3:00 am
by TJKansai
bryanc wrote: ↑Wed Mar 23, 2022 12:49 am
RetireJapan wrote: ↑Thu Aug 26, 2021 3:23 am
People born with dual nationality do not, in practice, need to give it up. They need to 'choose' Japanese nationality before turning 22, and then can just carry on without any consequences (unless they go into politics, ie see Renho).
This is very different from people who acquire a second nationality later in life. They are treated very strictly by the government, and the 'renounce other nationalities' is enforced. So it is vital not to mix them up when discussing this topic.
just to belatedly jump in on this..I agree with what Ben is writing..however,after 22 how do people on here(or their children) answer the question on the passport renewal form about do you have another nationality? do you say no or yes? presuming yes would cause trouble?
asking as eldest son slowly reaching this age.....
In April 18 year olds will be able to get 10 year Japanese passports, so it seems logical the "declaration age" will also slide to 18. Or not...