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Yossarian wrote: Thu Jan 30, 2025 5:27 am
KCLenny wrote: Thu Jan 30, 2025 4:17 am
I’m strongly leaning towards the business one, as opposed to the kids one, purely because I don’t know if I can keep up the energy to teach kids all day every day, 5 days a week, just for the “better salary”.
Makes sense. Enjoyment and stress are huge factors, too. I did a similar job when I was younger. Was sent to a bunch of places teaching. Lessons were fun. Commuting wasn't. Just something for you to be aware of.
Yeah that is a factor.
I’m hoping I can just listen to some podcasts, maybe read some books, something like that.
Gives me some time to study, somewhat. Potentially. That’s being optimistic. But I don’t think it’s going to be super easy.
But it can’t just be standing up in a train all day every day given that it seems like the work schedule is a bit variable each week/month.
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KCLenny wrote: Thu Jan 30, 2025 6:00 am
But it can’t just be standing up in a train all day every day given that it seems like the work schedule is a bit variable each week/month.
Good idea to have a look at an average schedule. When I did it, it was a lot of commuting. Multiple places in a day kind of stuff.
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RetireJapan wrote: Wed Jan 22, 2025 3:39 am
AreTheyTheLemmings? wrote: Wed Jan 22, 2025 2:59 am Sorry to digress. How many lessons per month?
42 a year. The number per month will vary.

Used to do 46, then 44. From April we'll switch to 42 (which seems incredibly common in other schools -I have been asking around).
Did you announce this to the parents or just change the timetable quietly? If you told them, what reason did you give?
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KCLenny wrote: Thu Jan 30, 2025 6:00 am
Yossarian wrote: Thu Jan 30, 2025 5:27 am
KCLenny wrote: Thu Jan 30, 2025 4:17 am
I’m strongly leaning towards the business one, as opposed to the kids one, purely because I don’t know if I can keep up the energy to teach kids all day every day, 5 days a week, just for the “better salary”.
Makes sense. Enjoyment and stress are huge factors, too. I did a similar job when I was younger. Was sent to a bunch of places teaching. Lessons were fun. Commuting wasn't. Just something for you to be aware of.
Yeah that is a factor.
I’m hoping I can just listen to some podcasts, maybe read some books, something like that.
Gives me some time to study, somewhat. Potentially. That’s being optimistic. But I don’t think it’s going to be super easy.
But it can’t just be standing up in a train all day every day given that it seems like the work schedule is a bit variable each week/month.
The business one sounds more interesting to me, especially in terms of variety and being able to put things other than 'teaching English in an eikaiwa' on your CV. Personally the idea of doing young kids classes most of the day every day would instantly rule out the other one for me, but we are all different.
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Yeah that’s what I’m leaning towards.
Have to be available from 9am to 9pm officially but I would seriously doubt I’d actually be working 12 hours a day.
But if somehow I did, I’d be paid for it so that’s fine every now and then.
It looks like a few classes are planned for every week ongoing, and then other than that there are courses for varying lengths of time and various times of day.
I’ve arranged another interview/discussion about it for Monday.
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banders wrote: Thu Jan 30, 2025 6:43 am
RetireJapan wrote: Wed Jan 22, 2025 3:39 am 42 a year. The number per month will vary.

Used to do 46, then 44. From April we'll switch to 42 (which seems incredibly common in other schools -I have been asking around).
Did you announce this to the parents or just change the timetable quietly? If you told them, what reason did you give?
Of course we told them :lol:

We said we needed the time for staff training and to schedule makeup weeks if something happened to classes. No one really seemed to care.
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Yossarian wrote: Thu Jan 30, 2025 5:27 am
KCLenny wrote: Thu Jan 30, 2025 4:17 am
I’m strongly leaning towards the business one, as opposed to the kids one, purely because I don’t know if I can keep up the energy to teach kids all day every day, 5 days a week, just for the “better salary”.
Makes sense. Enjoyment and stress are huge factors, too. I did a similar job when I was younger. Was sent to a bunch of places teaching. Lessons were fun. Commuting wasn't. Just something for you to be aware of.
Nothing worse than depending on a 5-year-old not balling his eyes out for a job. Sometimes, some kids just don't want to be there. Not to mention some parents complaining that you upset your kid. I always remember a parent complaining that I told her kids (returnees) there was a difference between a "BUG" and. a "SPIDER". The business might be less stressful and maybe less brain-draining. Although I know people who thrive on teaching kids. How's the weather? I'm 7. LOL Anyway, sometimes it's hard to compete with the hyper-genki younger teachers especially as we get older. Good luck.
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KCLenny wrote: Thu Jan 30, 2025 10:47 am Yeah that’s what I’m leaning towards.
Have to be available from 9am to 9pm officially but I would seriously doubt I’d actually be working 12 hours a day.
But if somehow I did, I’d be paid for it so that’s fine every now and then.
It looks like a few classes are planned for every week ongoing, and then other than that there are courses for varying lengths of time and various times of day.
I’ve arranged another interview/discussion about it for Monday.
One thing to be a bit wary of is that you could well be basically on call for those 12 hours. I worked a job like this once and you could have a class at 9 a.m. one at midday and then couple in the evening, which doesn't seem that bad on paper but basically takes away the whole day and with the travelling can pretty much amount to being at work for 12 hours but only getting paid for the hours taught. It might not be like that situation at all, but worth bearing in mind. There is a lot to be said for being in one location, but obviously I wouldn't take the kids' job if you are not really interested in teaching kids.
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goodandbadjapan wrote: Thu Jan 30, 2025 11:33 pm One thing to be a bit wary of is that you could well be basically on call for those 12 hours. I worked a job like this once and you could have a class at 9 a.m. one at midday and then couple in the evening, which doesn't seem that bad on paper but basically takes away the whole day and with the travelling can pretty much amount to being at work for 12 hours but only getting paid for the hours taught.
My experience is similar. I wouldn't want to teach kids either but OP need to be aware of this.
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Yossarian wrote: Fri Jan 31, 2025 12:35 am
goodandbadjapan wrote: Thu Jan 30, 2025 11:33 pm One thing to be a bit wary of is that you could well be basically on call for those 12 hours. I worked a job like this once and you could have a class at 9 a.m. one at midday and then couple in the evening, which doesn't seem that bad on paper but basically takes away the whole day and with the travelling can pretty much amount to being at work for 12 hours but only getting paid for the hours taught.
My experience is similar. I wouldn't want to teach kids either but OP need to be aware of this.
I would want more exact details about job 1. The business model does not seem clear. The base compensation is also far too low. {Unskilled worker low}.

Job 2 - A more understandable business model, but teaching children 6 and under is basically a childcare role, more than a teaching role. You need to be okay with that.
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