Article about UK pensions and cost of living

beanhead
Sensei
Posts: 1214
Joined: Sat Jan 30, 2021 1:24 pm
Location: Kanto

Article about UK pensions and cost of living

Post by beanhead »

The one thing that struck me most was that traditional thinking seems to suggest 100% 'risk-free' assets in retirement.
So cash and annuity.
But, to counter inflation, you need some higher-risk assets as well.

https://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/pen ... ement.html
Aiming to retire at 60 and live for a while longer. 95% index funds (eMaxis Slim etc), 5% Japanese dividend stocks.
User avatar
RetireJapan
Site Admin
Posts: 4728
Joined: Wed Aug 02, 2017 6:57 am
Location: Sendai
Contact:

Re: Article about UK pensions and cost of living

Post by RetireJapan »

37,300GBP annually is an enormous amount of money. I have no idea where they got that figure from, but it is pretty much twice as much as I calculate my wife and I would need to live comfortably in Japan :shock:
English teacher and writer. RetireJapan founder. Avid reader.

eMaxis Slim Shady 8-)
Beaglehound
Veteran
Posts: 727
Joined: Wed Apr 10, 2019 12:21 pm

Re: Article about UK pensions and cost of living

Post by Beaglehound »

RetireJapan wrote: Mon May 01, 2023 5:40 am 37,300GBP annually is an enormous amount of money. I have no idea where they got that figure from, but it is pretty much twice as much as I calculate my wife and I would need to live comfortably in Japan :shock:
This was my thought too. It is true however that inflation as rampant as it is in the U.K. at the moment is a serious game changer for retirees. An argument for making sure one gets as big a state pension as possible, since that (at least for now) goes up with inflation.
Moneymatters
Veteran
Posts: 473
Joined: Wed Mar 04, 2020 7:20 am
Location: Tokyo

Re: Article about UK pensions and cost of living

Post by Moneymatters »

RetireJapan wrote: Mon May 01, 2023 5:40 am 37,300GBP annually is an enormous amount of money. I have no idea where they got that figure from, but it is pretty much twice as much as I calculate my wife and I would need to live comfortably in Japan :shock:
https://www.retirementlivingstandards.org.uk/

Aside from questions such as. WTF are retirees doing to their kitchens? I think some of this is the British use of the term. If you know what I mean.
“I wouldn’t say we’re rich. But we’re comfortable.” (Whilst a maid refills their glass…)

Also, £54K pa as a couple but limited to £56 for a birthday day gift. I should try that one year. “Let me tell you about the day I almost died..”
— Funemployment commencing in Sept 2025 —
beanhead
Sensei
Posts: 1214
Joined: Sat Jan 30, 2021 1:24 pm
Location: Kanto

Re: Article about UK pensions and cost of living

Post by beanhead »

Moneymatters wrote: Mon May 01, 2023 8:34 am
Aside from questions such as. WTF are retirees doing to their kitchens?
British people in general seem to spend a lot of time and money on their homes. All of my relatives are always replacing something or decorating a room or spending cash on the garden.

Japanese, on the other hand, seem content to let houses get a bit more run-down. Perhaps because they usually don't do much entertaining at home?
Aiming to retire at 60 and live for a while longer. 95% index funds (eMaxis Slim etc), 5% Japanese dividend stocks.
Wales4rugbyWC23
Veteran
Posts: 514
Joined: Mon Sep 16, 2019 1:30 am
Location: Fukuoka

Re: Article about UK pensions and cost of living

Post by Wales4rugbyWC23 »

beanhead wrote: Mon May 01, 2023 2:53 pm
Moneymatters wrote: Mon May 01, 2023 8:34 am
Aside from questions such as. WTF are retirees doing to their kitchens?
British people in general seem to spend a lot of time and money on their homes. All of my relatives are always replacing something or decorating a room or spending cash on the garden.

Japanese, on the other hand, seem content to let houses get a bit more run-down. Perhaps because they usually don't do much entertaining at home?
House prices, house prices, house prices- second most talked about thing in the UK apart from the weather. Hardly gets a mention in Japanese conversation.
beanhead
Sensei
Posts: 1214
Joined: Sat Jan 30, 2021 1:24 pm
Location: Kanto

Re: Article about UK pensions and cost of living

Post by beanhead »

Beaglehound wrote: Mon May 01, 2023 6:07 am
This was my thought too. It is true however that inflation as rampant as it is in the U.K. at the moment is a serious game changer for retirees. An argument for making sure one gets as big a state pension as possible, since that (at least for now) goes up with inflation.
Agreed. And also, that retirees need some equity in their portfolio as well.
Annuities alone is not a great strategy, unless you get one which is inflation-linked.

(see captainspoke's post in the Milestone thread)
Aiming to retire at 60 and live for a while longer. 95% index funds (eMaxis Slim etc), 5% Japanese dividend stocks.
User avatar
Roger Van Zant
Veteran
Posts: 627
Joined: Tue Sep 01, 2020 7:33 am
Location: Kyushu

Re: Article about UK pensions and cost of living

Post by Roger Van Zant »

beanhead wrote: Mon May 01, 2023 2:53 pm
Moneymatters wrote: Mon May 01, 2023 8:34 am
Aside from questions such as. WTF are retirees doing to their kitchens?
British people in general seem to spend a lot of time and money on their homes. All of my relatives are always replacing something or decorating a room or spending cash on the garden.

Japanese, on the other hand, seem content to let houses get a bit more run-down. Perhaps because they usually don't do much entertaining at home?
Because they can't, in such small and cluttered houses!
Investments:
Company DB scheme ✓
iDeCo (Monex) eMaxis Slim All Country ✓
新NISA (SBI) eMaxis Slim All Country ✓
Japanese pension (kosei nenkin) ✓
UK pension (Class 2 payer) ✓
tokyojoe
Regular
Posts: 40
Joined: Sun Jul 08, 2018 11:30 am

Re: Article about UK pensions and cost of living

Post by tokyojoe »

beanhead wrote: Mon May 01, 2023 2:53 pm
Moneymatters wrote: Mon May 01, 2023 8:34 am
Aside from questions such as. WTF are retirees doing to their kitchens?
British people in general seem to spend a lot of time and money on their homes. All of my relatives are always replacing something or decorating a room or spending cash on the garden.

Japanese, on the other hand, seem content to let houses get a bit more run-down. Perhaps because they usually don't do much entertaining at home?
Or perhaps it is because they know the house will be demolished the moment they move out!!
beanhead
Sensei
Posts: 1214
Joined: Sat Jan 30, 2021 1:24 pm
Location: Kanto

Another article about UK pensions

Post by beanhead »

From the Guardian

The retirement age will have to rise to 71 for middle-aged workers across the UK, according to research into the impact of growing life expectancy and falling birthrates on the state pension.

https://www.theguardian.com/money/2024/ ... ay-experts
Aiming to retire at 60 and live for a while longer. 95% index funds (eMaxis Slim etc), 5% Japanese dividend stocks.
Post Reply