Putting money in Junior NISA
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Putting money in Junior NISA
Hi all,
New member here - I'm sure to be asking something stupid, naive, or trivial, but....
Anyway, I have just got around to setting up a Junior NISA for my kid. I want to put money in, but I'm a little unsure about the process (Rakuten portal).
My concern is over gift tax and such complications. Is it allowed for me to transfer money from my account (e.g. by Furikomi) to her Securities Account, or must the transfer occur from her bank account?
Anyone who has experience or advice would be most appreciated!
New member here - I'm sure to be asking something stupid, naive, or trivial, but....
Anyway, I have just got around to setting up a Junior NISA for my kid. I want to put money in, but I'm a little unsure about the process (Rakuten portal).
My concern is over gift tax and such complications. Is it allowed for me to transfer money from my account (e.g. by Furikomi) to her Securities Account, or must the transfer occur from her bank account?
Anyone who has experience or advice would be most appreciated!
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Re: Putting money in Junior NISA
For my grandkids' NISA accounts, the easiest thing was to put the money in their bank account then transfer to Rakuten.
As long as the child is not receiving more than 1.1m yen a year in gifts, they don't need to worry about gift tax.
As long as the child is not receiving more than 1.1m yen a year in gifts, they don't need to worry about gift tax.
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Re: Putting money in Junior NISA
Awesome - thank you! That makes life pretty easy - she has more than enough money in her account to max out J-NISA this (sadly final) year.RetireJapan wrote: ↑Fri Jun 09, 2023 1:52 am For my grandkids' NISA accounts, the easiest thing was to put the money in their bank account then transfer to Rakuten.
As long as the child is not receiving more than 1.1m yen a year in gifts, they don't need to worry about gift tax.
I'm pretty new to this whole process, and while it's pretty exciting to be making a start on taking control of my / my family's future finances, doing any kind of legal stuff in Japanese can be intimidating. Reading this forum (and buying Ben's excellent NISA guide) has make the process a lot less daunting.
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Congratulations on getting the Junior NISA set up and maxed out in time -your daughter will thank you for it, especially if you persuade her to leave it invested for decadesRandomletters wrote: ↑Fri Jun 09, 2023 2:01 am Awesome - thank you! That makes life pretty easy - she has more than enough money in her account to max out J-NISA this (sadly final) year.
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Re: Putting money in Junior NISA
Your kid can receive upto Y1.1M in gifts in a tax year free of Gift Tax, so the NISA contributions will not reach that threshold.Randomletters wrote: ↑Fri Jun 09, 2023 1:43 am Hi all,
New member here - I'm sure to be asking something stupid, naive, or trivial, but....
Anyway, I have just got around to setting up a Junior NISA for my kid. I want to put money in, but I'm a little unsure about the process (Rakuten portal).
My concern is over gift tax and such complications. Is it allowed for me to transfer money from my account (e.g. by Furikomi) to her Securities Account, or must the transfer occur from her bank account?
Anyone who has experience or advice would be most appreciated!
This is the last year of Junior NISA. It will not be available next year. I don't know what will replace it.
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This Guide to Japanese Taxes, English and Japanese Tai-Yaku 対訳, is now a little dated:
https://zaik.jp/books/472-4
The Publisher is not planning to publish an update for '23 Tax Season.
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This Guide to Japanese Taxes, English and Japanese Tai-Yaku 対訳, is now a little dated:
https://zaik.jp/books/472-4
The Publisher is not planning to publish an update for '23 Tax Season.
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Re: Putting money in Junior NISA
With this being the last year of the Junior NISA, is it worth taking advantage of it before it's gone? Or is it too late to be worth it?
The wiki says that funds will be transferred out to a regular account in 2024, so any benefits would only be for this year, right?
The wiki says that funds will be transferred out to a regular account in 2024, so any benefits would only be for this year, right?
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As I understand it, this is the last year you can put money in, but that money can stay in for up to 20 years.RetroNewbie wrote: ↑Tue Sep 05, 2023 2:40 pm With this being the last year of the Junior NISA, is it worth taking advantage of it before it's gone? Or is it too late to be worth it?
The wiki says that funds will be transferred out to a regular account in 2024, so any benefits would only be for this year, right?
The rules change so you can take it out from Jan 1, 2024, but you're under no obligation to.
I have filled my kid's JNISA already, and it'll stay there until she decides what to do with it at 18.
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That doesn't sound accurate. Will take a look this weekend.RetroNewbie wrote: ↑Tue Sep 05, 2023 2:40 pm The wiki says that funds will be transferred out to a regular account in 2024, so any benefits would only be for this year, right?
Here's the Japanese from the FSA
*4 …2024年以降、ジュニアNISAでは、新規購入ができません。なお、2024年以降、当初の非課税期間(5年間)の満了を迎えても、18歳になるまで引き続き非課税で保有できます。
https://www.fsa.go.jp/policy/nisa2/abou ... index.html
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I have three kids 10 and under, so thinking about this year only, it’s 800,000 x 3 = 2.4 million invested tax free for at least 8 years. It’s definitely worth it for me.RetroNewbie wrote: ↑Tue Sep 05, 2023 2:40 pm With this being the last year of the Junior NISA, is it worth taking advantage of it before it's gone? Or is it too late to be worth it?
If you have money to gift your kid, and time and will to set it up, I think it is worth it.
Since there can be no selling and buying post 2024 in jnisa, for this year, I have my kids jnisa all investing in an all country stocks fund, so hopefully there will be some good times for them in future should they want to cash out… pray for world peace, technological breakthroughs and good economic policy! (I’d put money on the middle one but not the other two…)
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Wiki says:
But if it's possible to withdraw before 18, and it's *can* be transferred instead of *will* be transferred then it'd definitely be worth it.No withdrawals in principle until 18… however, when the JNISA ends in 2023, funds will be transferred to a regular securities account, where withdraws are permitted.