There is also HSBC Expat, based in Jersey, Channel Islands, separate from the UK-based HSBC.
Jersey deposit protect scheme protects up to 50k UK pounds.
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@Gareth you’re right about documentation; thank you for the heads up.
https://www.hsbc.co.uk/help/banking-mad ... ntify-you/
HSBC link includes info regarding verification of address abroad.
@gaijin86 thanks for the HSBC Expat info. Barclays have something similar based in the IOM I think.
@kuma even though I was dismissive of the Wise model, that is useful information. Still I would need to do some due diligence especially regarding our savings. Paying in our pensions to Wise seems to be ok.
https://www.hsbc.co.uk/help/banking-mad ... ntify-you/
HSBC link includes info regarding verification of address abroad.
@gaijin86 thanks for the HSBC Expat info. Barclays have something similar based in the IOM I think.
@kuma even though I was dismissive of the Wise model, that is useful information. Still I would need to do some due diligence especially regarding our savings. Paying in our pensions to Wise seems to be ok.
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thanks Kuma.kuma wrote: ↑Tue Apr 25, 2023 5:55 am The wise.com multi currency accounts get the thumbs up from many forum members:
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Wise has published a decent blog about the UK state pension too:
https://wise.com/gb/blog/uk-state-pensi ... %20further
I use it myself and have found it excellent. You can receive money into a GBP account with UK sort code / account no. and then transfer into other currencies.
Whilst my UK bank account still has a UK address and is actively used I'm keen wean myself from it.
I'm just a bit confused about the WISE application procedure.
Yesterday, I created an account, submitted ID documentation, got verified and deposited funds within the same day.
So what, pray tell me, am I supposed to do with the other several months I'd set aside for this process?
I felt sure I could get a few thousand words out of this. But alas. I was thwarted from the get go. "Enter First and Middle name" I'm furious. I've never felt so 'seen'.
They even let me live out a long standing hostage fantasy by taking a "proof of life" selfie holding a little number card (I pretended it was a newspaper..).
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I use my sister's address in London for my NatWest bank account. I also use her mobile phone number, so any alerts get sent to her phone and she just then screenshots them to me. I just have to make sure she's awake, what with the time difference. She also forwards me my new debit and credit cards when they get reissued. Been doing this for years.Beaglehound wrote: ↑Tue Apr 25, 2023 11:33 am @macaddict: I am with Nationwide and while that is still OK for now, I have thought that if the worst were to happen then switching to my sister’s address in the U.K. would be a possible solution. Probably not without hassle as banks so often require codes sent to mobiles these days, but it could likely be worked around. While I would not lie and say I was U.K. resident to open a new account, I wouldn’t have any issue with that lie personally. And what’s the worst that could happen if they somehow (how?) found out? All they would do is close your account and you are no worse off.
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This is asking a bit from your sister, isn't it? Isn't just worth changing British banks. Touch wood, but Lloyds haven't yet said they are closing any non-resident bank accounts.Roger Van Zant wrote: ↑Fri Apr 28, 2023 4:27 amI use my sister's address in London for my NatWest bank account. I also use her mobile phone number, so any alerts get sent to her phone and she just then screenshots them to me. I just have to make sure she's awake, what with the time difference. She also forwards me my new debit and credit cards when they get reissued. Been doing this for years.Beaglehound wrote: ↑Tue Apr 25, 2023 11:33 am @macaddict: I am with Nationwide and while that is still OK for now, I have thought that if the worst were to happen then switching to my sister’s address in the U.K. would be a possible solution. Probably not without hassle as banks so often require codes sent to mobiles these days, but it could likely be worked around. While I would not lie and say I was U.K. resident to open a new account, I wouldn’t have any issue with that lie personally. And what’s the worst that could happen if they somehow (how?) found out? All they would do is close your account and you are no worse off.
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NatWest has sent my debit cards to me in Japan for decades nowWales4rugbyWC19 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 28, 2023 10:15 amThis is asking a bit from your sister, isn't it? Isn't just worth changing British banks. Touch wood, but Lloyds haven't yet said they are closing any non-resident bank accounts.Roger Van Zant wrote: ↑Fri Apr 28, 2023 4:27 amI use my sister's address in London for my NatWest bank account. I also use her mobile phone number, so any alerts get sent to her phone and she just then screenshots them to me. I just have to make sure she's awake, what with the time difference. She also forwards me my new debit and credit cards when they get reissued. Been doing this for years.Beaglehound wrote: ↑Tue Apr 25, 2023 11:33 am @macaddict: I am with Nationwide and while that is still OK for now, I have thought that if the worst were to happen then switching to my sister’s address in the U.K. would be a possible solution. Probably not without hassle as banks so often require codes sent to mobiles these days, but it could likely be worked around. While I would not lie and say I was U.K. resident to open a new account, I wouldn’t have any issue with that lie personally. And what’s the worst that could happen if they somehow (how?) found out? All they would do is close your account and you are no worse off.
Hopefully I don't jinx it by writing that...
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Re: Barclays UK closing expat accounts ?
Am also using Natwest, in Jersey.
Also using Santander which has branches Jersey and Isle of Man
Also using Santander which has branches Jersey and Isle of Man
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Same here. I have one of their token things for one-time passwords for online banking and also can get the text messages sent to my Japan mobile.RetireJapan wrote: ↑Fri Apr 28, 2023 10:30 am
NatWest has sent my debit cards to me in Japan for decades now
Hopefully I don't jinx it by writing that...
Until now, they seem to have no problem at all dealing with non-UK residents.
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No, it's nothing.Wales4rugbyWC19 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 28, 2023 10:15 amThis is asking a bit from your sister, isn't it? Isn't just worth changing British banks. Touch wood, but Lloyds haven't yet said they are closing any non-resident bank accounts.Roger Van Zant wrote: ↑Fri Apr 28, 2023 4:27 amI use my sister's address in London for my NatWest bank account. I also use her mobile phone number, so any alerts get sent to her phone and she just then screenshots them to me. I just have to make sure she's awake, what with the time difference. She also forwards me my new debit and credit cards when they get reissued. Been doing this for years.Beaglehound wrote: ↑Tue Apr 25, 2023 11:33 am @macaddict: I am with Nationwide and while that is still OK for now, I have thought that if the worst were to happen then switching to my sister’s address in the U.K. would be a possible solution. Probably not without hassle as banks so often require codes sent to mobiles these days, but it could likely be worked around. While I would not lie and say I was U.K. resident to open a new account, I wouldn’t have any issue with that lie personally. And what’s the worst that could happen if they somehow (how?) found out? All they would do is close your account and you are no worse off.
Also, no way can I open a new UK bank account as a non-UK resident!
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Hang on a minute!. Japan is not on Barclay's list of countries!!!
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