The last few times I've logged into my kids' JNISA accounts on Rakuten to transfer money in from their Post Office accounts, it has given me the option to a) transfer money from accounts in the child's name, or b) transfer the money in from MY account but warns that I could be liable for gift tax if I transfer more than ¥1.1m a year... Seeing as JNISA limit is what, ¥800k a year per child, that shouldn't be a problem...
So, if you have problems or can't be bothered to create accounts for each child, just use option b).
How to put money into Junior NISA?
Re: How to put money into Junior NISA?
iDeCo -> Established
新NISA -> Established
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新NISA -> Established
Jr NISA -> Established (Running quietly in the background)
UK Pension Voluntary Contributions -> Up and running
All thanks to RetireJapan...
Re: How to put money into Junior NISA?
Thanks. I've been avoiding Japan Post because I don't have a good experience with their online interphase (I mean they sent me my password in the mailbox, lol). But it seems so far no banks provide an easier solution than what you mentioned about the family register and 30mins.
By the way just to add to the conversation above, I inquire with SBI how it is possible to have a Junior NISA when children below 15 years old are usually not allowed to have a bank account. They clarified that the child need not transfer from his own ban account. What is required is that the transfer requester has to have the same name as the child.
It is explained here (sort of):
https://faq.sbisec.co.jp/answer/5efd9bc ... earch=true
edit: While the may be true, to sign up for JNISA, you need to register a bank account where money from JNISA goes which needs to be their name. So in the end you still need an account in the Child's name. FML.
Oh and with the JNISA ending in 2023, does that mean I only have until then to invest tax free? Or do I get a fresh 5 years from now?
By the way just to add to the conversation above, I inquire with SBI how it is possible to have a Junior NISA when children below 15 years old are usually not allowed to have a bank account. They clarified that the child need not transfer from his own ban account. What is required is that the transfer requester has to have the same name as the child.
It is explained here (sort of):
https://faq.sbisec.co.jp/answer/5efd9bc ... earch=true
edit: While the may be true, to sign up for JNISA, you need to register a bank account where money from JNISA goes which needs to be their name. So in the end you still need an account in the Child's name. FML.
Oh and with the JNISA ending in 2023, does that mean I only have until then to invest tax free? Or do I get a fresh 5 years from now?
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Re: How to put money into Junior NISA?
2023 is the last year you can contribute.crew wrote: ↑Wed Jul 14, 2021 4:31 am Thanks. I've been avoiding Japan Post because I don't have a good experience with their online interphase (I mean they sent me my password in the mailbox, lol). But it seems so far no banks provide an easier solution than what you mentioned about the family register and 30mins.
By the way just to add to the conversation above, I inquire with SBI how it is possible to have a Junior NISA when children below 15 years old are usually not allowed to have a bank account. They clarified that the child need not transfer from his own ban account. What is required is that the transfer requester has to have the same name as the child.
It is explained here (sort of):
https://faq.sbisec.co.jp/answer/5efd9bc ... earch=true
Oh and with the JNISA ending in 2023, does that mean I only have until then to invest tax free? Or do I get a fresh 5 years from now?
It does not look like the scheme is being replace by anything.
We're aiming to max it out for all remaining years and use the fund as a "pot" for funding our current child's (and possible future childrens) education.
Re: How to put money into Junior NISA?
I was thinking that while Junior NISA is not that attractive with the pending end in a less than three years (better to put the money in MY NISA so its not locked up), but if I want to open an investment account for my kid anyway so they can learn the ropes, this is the only way right, so might as well go for it. Am I correct?
Re: How to put money into Junior NISA?
Even if you put money in 2023, you still get the full 5 years tax-free (so 2028). It just means you can't do it again in 2024. I don't have children so I can't comment on the wisdom of doing this but if you have your own account and are maxing it out, there's nothing wrong with putting 800k into your kid's account so you get to enjoy even more tax-free investments.crew wrote: ↑Wed Jul 14, 2021 6:17 amI was thinking that while Junior NISA is not that attractive with the pending end in a less than three years (better to put the money in MY NISA so its not locked up), but if I want to open an investment account for my kid anyway so they can learn the ropes, this is the only way right, so might as well go for it. Am I correct?
Re: How to put money into Junior NISA?
I had assumed you already maxed out your Nisa, and your SO's NISA. That should come first. But, with the end of the J-Nisa they removed the restriction on early withdrawals, making it an excellent deal.crew wrote: ↑Wed Jul 14, 2021 6:17 amI was thinking that while Junior NISA is not that attractive with the pending end in a less than three years (better to put the money in MY NISA so its not locked up), but if I want to open an investment account for my kid anyway so they can learn the ropes, this is the only way right, so might as well go for it. Am I correct?
I think it's still worth opening. By the end of it you'll kids will have a bank account, J-NISA, and Taxable account.
Maybe ask the in-laws to contribute, or slot in that birthday or New Year's money?
Re: How to put money into Junior NISA?
That was the option I decided to go with until I found out that to create an account you need to register a child's bank account where his earnings will be sent. LOL. So he still needs an account after all (This is SBI)Bushiman wrote: ↑Wed Jul 14, 2021 4:13 am The last few times I've logged into my kids' JNISA accounts on Rakuten to transfer money in from their Post Office accounts, it has given me the option to a) transfer money from accounts in the child's name, or b) transfer the money in from MY account but warns that I could be liable for gift tax if I transfer more than ¥1.1m a year... Seeing as JNISA limit is what, ¥800k a year per child, that shouldn't be a problem...
So, if you have problems or can't be bothered to create accounts for each child, just use option b).
Re: How to put money into Junior NISA?
Kanto wrote: ↑Wed Jul 14, 2021 6:36 amI had assumed you already maxed out your Nisa, and your SO's NISA. That should come first. But, with the end of the J-Nisa they removed the restriction on early withdrawals, making it an excellent deal.crew wrote: ↑Wed Jul 14, 2021 6:17 amI was thinking that while Junior NISA is not that attractive with the pending end in a less than three years (better to put the money in MY NISA so its not locked up), but if I want to open an investment account for my kid anyway so they can learn the ropes, this is the only way right, so might as well go for it. Am I correct?
I think it's still worth opening. By the end of it you'll kids will have a bank account, J-NISA, and Taxable account.
Maybe ask the in-laws to contribute, or slot in that birthday or New Year's money?
Nah I haven't maxed out. I want to max to ours first, but I was also thinking it would be nice for them to have their own little accounts they can look in to and see their money grow. I don't expect to be able to max out both NISA and JNISA this year due to some spending.