I noticed in the government is planning on introducing a National Insurance Contributions Bill later this year.
It's very likely that it will include the abolition of Class 2 payments, meaning all voluntary contributions will need to be Class 3.
We can't know for sure yet, but it looks like it's back on the table. Here's the consultation from 2015 before they got distracted with Brexit and Coronavirus:
https://www.gov.uk/government/consultat ... f-employed
It was announced in the Queen's Speech, although the bill name is only in the written version:
https://www.gov.uk/government/speeches/ ... peech-2021
UK Class 2 contribs on the way out (again)
UK Class 2 contribs on the way out (again)
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Re: UK Class 2 contribs on the way out (again)
Not to say it won’t happen, but the purpose of the bill (page 70 in the link, reading the whole thing definitely not recommended) seems to be different.
https://assets.publishing.service.gov.u ... Notes..pdf
https://assets.publishing.service.gov.u ... Notes..pdf
Re: UK Class 2 contribs on the way out (again)
Oh, nice link, thanks. That's good to see, so it might be safe after-all.Beaglehound wrote: ↑Wed May 12, 2021 3:01 am Not to say it won’t happen, but the purpose of the bill (page 70 in the link, reading the whole thing definitely not recommended) seems to be different.
https://assets.publishing.service.gov.u ... Notes..pdf
This sounds like it could touch Class 2, so we'll have to see. As you said, it doesn't seem to be the focus.Ensuring self-employed people who must, or have had to, self-isolate due to
COVID-19 have parity with employed people and do not pay National Insurance
contributions on their self-isolation support payments.
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I pay about fifteen quid per month for class 2 contributions. How much would class 3 be per month?
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https://www.gov.uk/voluntary-national-i ... ions/ratesRoger Van Zant wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 12:23 pm I pay about fifteen quid per month for class 2 contributions. How much would class 3 be per month?
5 times more expensive, but still not bad.The rates for the 2021 to 2022 tax year are:
£3.05 a week for Class 2
£15.40 a week for Class 3
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I pay class 3: they're a good deal, but not free money like class 2
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Re: UK Class 2 contribs on the way out (again)
I would still pay even class 3. Still pretty cheap.adamu wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 12:24 pmhttps://www.gov.uk/voluntary-national-i ... ions/ratesRoger Van Zant wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 12:23 pm I pay about fifteen quid per month for class 2 contributions. How much would class 3 be per month?
5 times more expensive, but still not bad.The rates for the 2021 to 2022 tax year are:
£3.05 a week for Class 2
£15.40 a week for Class 3
Investments:
Company DB scheme ✓
iDeCo (Monex) eMaxis Slim All Country ✓
新NISA (SBI) eMaxis Slim All Country ✓
Japanese pension (kosei nenkin) ✓
UK pension (Class 2 payer) ✓
Company DB scheme ✓
iDeCo (Monex) eMaxis Slim All Country ✓
新NISA (SBI) eMaxis Slim All Country ✓
Japanese pension (kosei nenkin) ✓
UK pension (Class 2 payer) ✓
Re: UK Class 2 contribs on the way out (again)
I just got accepted for Class 2.
I will backpay the 15 years they have offered me while I can.
If the only option in the future is Class 3, so be it. But 15 years at about 160 quid a year is a bargain!
I will backpay the 15 years they have offered me while I can.
If the only option in the future is Class 3, so be it. But 15 years at about 160 quid a year is a bargain!
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Congratulations!
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Nice result - no matter how much it cost you in time/phone-calls/frustration!