Santa Claus rally -when will this end?
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Santa Claus rally -when will this end?
Well, stock market is still going up (weak yen also contributing I guess).
I have a (fairly conservative) future planning spreadsheet. Based on our December numbers it works out where we are likely to be a year later.
We already reached the Dec 2022 goals
It's getting to the point that I am considering cashing out, not to time the market but just to lock in 5 years of spending in cash or something. The endless bull market is definitely making me nervous now.
How's everyone else feeling?
I have a (fairly conservative) future planning spreadsheet. Based on our December numbers it works out where we are likely to be a year later.
We already reached the Dec 2022 goals
It's getting to the point that I am considering cashing out, not to time the market but just to lock in 5 years of spending in cash or something. The endless bull market is definitely making me nervous now.
How's everyone else feeling?
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Re: Santa Claus rally -when will this end?
It's nuts. Last year, we hit our low FIRE number and I thought it would take till at least the end of next year to hit our more comfortable FIRE number. We passed that a few months ago and it is really just gravy and security padding now (until the crash). We could go for a fat FIRE but the way the world is now we barely spend any money anyway! We are probably going to cut back our classes considerably in April.
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Well, CONGRATULATIONS are in order. Great job to hear about you obtaining your FIRE target. If I may be so bold to ask, how old are you? I'm looking at another 12 years or so before retirement unless something BIG comes along. I love to hear that someone is hitting their retirement. It is very encouraging, indeed.goodandbadjapan wrote: ↑Fri Dec 31, 2021 8:14 am It's nuts. Last year, we hit our low FIRE number and I thought it would take till at least the end of next year to hit our more comfortable FIRE number. We passed that a few months ago and it is really just gravy and security padding now (until the crash). We could go for a fat FIRE but the way the world is now we barely spend any money anyway! We are probably going to cut back our classes considerably in April.
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Re: Santa Claus rally -when will this end?
Thank you! I'm 51. But I'm not retiring just yet - just going to try and cut back a bit more. I still have a wee bit of fear about suddenly losing everything in a major crash, but basically the stress of money has gone and that feels good.runmanTX wrote: ↑Fri Dec 31, 2021 11:21 am
Well, CONGRATULATIONS are in order. Great job to hear about you obtaining your FIRE target. If I may be so bold to ask, how old are you? I'm looking at another 12 years or so before retirement unless something BIG comes along. I love to hear that someone is hitting their retirement. It is very encouraging, indeed.
Re: Santa Claus rally -when will this end?
No sudden moves for me. My projected retirement date is still a ways away (7-10 years), so there are no liquidity needs and there is plenty of time for recovery even if the market were to tank for a while.
Also, I've already experienced being burned trying to time the market. Several years ago, I looked at market indicators (CAPE ratio, etc) that pointed to an overheated market, and thought a correction was inevitable, and I took action, which ended up costing me a lot. My reading of the indicators wasn't necessarily illogical at that time, but subsequent market performance bucked the logic. That experience made me better appreciate that I can't call the top, I can't predict when the market will correct, nor by how much, nor for how long. Better to just stay the course and reduce the risk of making a mistake.
Also, I've already experienced being burned trying to time the market. Several years ago, I looked at market indicators (CAPE ratio, etc) that pointed to an overheated market, and thought a correction was inevitable, and I took action, which ended up costing me a lot. My reading of the indicators wasn't necessarily illogical at that time, but subsequent market performance bucked the logic. That experience made me better appreciate that I can't call the top, I can't predict when the market will correct, nor by how much, nor for how long. Better to just stay the course and reduce the risk of making a mistake.
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Low fire, high fire, roaring fire, boring fire. When it burns down, just a low, old flame:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Kbydxycvpg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Kbydxycvpg
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I guess true Bogleheads would say that if you are nervous your asset allocation should be fine-tuned.
If I were you, I would certainly consider selling some equity to replace it with cash or a bond fund.
If I were you, I would certainly consider selling some equity to replace it with cash or a bond fund.
Aiming to retire at 60 and live for a while longer. 95% index funds (eMaxis Slim etc), 5% Japanese dividend stocks.
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Re: Santa Claus rally -when will this end?
+1
You're appetite for risk had changed. Shift some assets to fixed income.
I00% equities near retirement is those with iron stomachs, huge pensions, or no other options.
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Re: Santa Claus rally -when will this end?
Depends on time frame. If it's "10yrs+ money" then stay invested.
https://www.fool.com/investing/2020/11/ ... you-money/
And another article I was reading this morning or last night:
Of course, there are always articles saying one thing or another.
https://www.fool.com/investing/2020/11/ ... you-money/
And another article I was reading this morning or last night:
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/what- ... eid=yhoof2But while such outsized stock-market gains have been fairly rare in the past 70 years, past performance shows that 2022 still could be a robust year for returns, according to a review of historical S&P 500 performance by Truist Advisory Services.
Indeed, Keith Lerner, co-chief investment officer at Truist, found the S&P 500 has produced at least 25% annual returns (including dividends), only 18 times since 1950. But in the following year, the broad-based index rose 82% of the time, notching average annual gains of 14% (see chart).
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“Two of the three years where stocks failed to rise, 1981 and 1990, coincided with recessions,” Lerner wrote, in a Friday client note. “Our work suggests near-term recession risk remains low.”
“The other downside market outlier was 1962, which was challenged by a flash crash and deteriorating investor confidence,” Lerner wrote.
Of course, there are always articles saying one thing or another.
Re: Santa Claus rally -when will this end?
It really has been an amazing run for equities. I have been bewildered by stock valuations for many years now but I am not selling. I am putting new funds into the asset classes (non-US equities, real estate) that I am under-weight in. I am seeing a lot of early retirements recently by friends who suddenly discover that the returns their investments dwarf what they make by working.